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Nov 21, 2020 14:36:08   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Longshadow wrote:
The camera battery is inserted in the bottom of the camera (T1i). I've no idea about the newer models. The grip (Vello) holds two batteries (or AA batteries), but the camera battery must be removed as the grip contacts (on an extension) go into the battery compartment. The battery door gets stored on the grip.

My first three film cameras were Canon (EX-Auto, Ftb, AE-1), I really liked them, so I just stayed with Canon.
Yea, one basically can't go wrong with any brand today, but they all have their own nuances for feel, operation, capabilities, etc..
The camera battery is inserted in the bottom of th... (show quote)


Same here, Pentax film cameras, tons of lenses, so stayed with Pentax.

If I live long enough for another camera I might consider switching brands or adding another brand. The current owner of Pentax, Ricoh seem to be too traditional for even me. They are resistant to embracing Mirrorless, MILC technology. Yet, they had one of the first years ago. With the Pentax K-01 APS-C MILC. But the darn thing had no EVF or OVF, only the back screen. A no go for me.

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Nov 21, 2020 14:41:05   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I use a grip on virtually every camera for three reasons...

To me the more important feature is the grip itself, which makes shooting vertical/portrait oriented shots more comfortable and efficient. I would guess that roughly half my shots are verticals, half are horizontal. (I see quite a few photographers who seem unaware their camera can also be used to make a vertically oriented shot... Everything they shoot is in landscape orientation, even when it makes for lousy composition or cuts off part of the subject!) However, to serve this purpose well the grip must have a secondary set of controls including shutter release button, aperture and/or shutter control dial, plus various AF control buttons and joysticks.

I also find the weight or mass the grip adds improves balance, stability and handling while using relatively large lenses on the camera. Shooting sporting events, I'm often using relatively large, heavy lenses.

This is in addition to doubling battery capacity.... and, of course, doubling the number of shots possible between battery changes.

Some cameras (mostly Nikon) also are able to shoot at a faster frame rate only when fitted with a grip.

Some "pro" cameras come with a permanently built-in vertical grip (all Canon 1D-series, Nikon D6, D5, D4, etc.) Personally I prefer the cameras where the grip is removable, in case I want to do so to save weight or make the camera more compact for travel. But most of the time I use a grip (and avoid cameras that don't accommodate them).
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That is exactly what I do, turn the camera and when without a grip I just end up with my elbow up in the air.

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Nov 21, 2020 14:48:59   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
That is exactly what I do, turn the camera and when without a grip I just end up with my elbow up in the air.

I still do that, even with the grip! Old habits...
I'll use the grip vertically if I'm taking a few shots or a long time to compose and focus.

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Nov 21, 2020 14:50:20   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Same here, Pentax film cameras, tons of lenses, so stayed with Pentax.

If I live long enough for another camera I might consider switching brands or adding another brand. The current owner of Pentax, Ricoh seem to be too traditional for even me. They are resistant to embracing Mirrorless, MILC technology. Yet, they had one of the first years ago. With the Pentax K-01 APS-C MILC. But the darn thing had no EVF or OVF, only the back screen. A no go for me.
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I would not get a camera that had only rear screen viewing.

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Nov 21, 2020 15:06:48   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
lamiaceae wrote:
...Does that mean Canon is still putting their batteries on the front of their cameras? Not in the bottom? So you are saying you dont get extra battery use with your Canon?...


Every Canon battery grip made this century accommodates two batteries, doubling capacity for the camera. To install a grip on a Canon camera...

1. First the battery is removed from the camera (via a door in the bottom).
2. Next the battery door is removed (there's a slot to store it safely on the grip).
3. Then the grip's protrusion fits up inside the camera's battery compartment and the grip is locked in place by screwing into the tripod mounting socket (there's another tripod mounting socket in the bottom of the grip itself).
4. Dual batteries of the original type fit into the base of the grip. In some cases they fit into the grip through a door in the back. In other cases they fit into a tray that slides into the grip from the size.

The advantage of this design is that you don't need to remove the grip itself from the camera to change out the battery that remains in the camera (the way you do with many... most?... Nikon grips).

In many cases the camera will work with a single battery installed in the grip, if necessary.

In all cases I'm aware of, unless a retailer offers a bundle, the Canon grip doesn't come with a spare battery. Additional batteries to use in it need to be purchased separately.

An exception are Canon's WFT or Wireless File Transfer modules used by some of the cameras. Some cameras use an WFT that looks like and in some ways fits and acts like a battery grip. However, in many cases these leave a single battery in and powering the camera. A second battery in the WFT itself only powers that module. In order to swap out the camera battery, you have to temporarily remove the WFT module (same as you have to do with most Nikon MB grips). An exception to these exceptions, just recently Canon introduced WFT-R10/R10A module for the R5 mirrorless camera which is a redesign that looks, fits and acts very much like their battery grips. Both batteries now fit into this particular WFT module (which costs one heck of a lot more than a battery grip). I suspect but am not certain if one battery powers this WFT and the other the camera... I doubt both batteries power both devices. Maybe some day I'll get an R5 to find out for myself. (Note: The Canon BG-R10 battery grip fits both R5 and R6 cameras, but the WFT-R10 only fits and works with the R5.)

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Nov 21, 2020 18:37:03   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
starlifter wrote:
Is the purpose of a battery grip just to hold batteries? I just put an extra one in my pocket. I save myself all the problems and expense, not to mention the weight.


The grips have controls and a shutter button on them that are positioned for use when holding the camera in "portrait" mode. No more "pretzel twisting" of you arm, wrist and hand.

Plus they also give what most people consider to be a better grip on the camera.

And the grips I buy come with a battery carrier that will hold AA batteries for if you are somewhere you can't recharge your camera batteries. AA are sold almost everywhere in the world that they have heard of electricity. Plus they also work for a lot of other things you may have along - I even have a set of hollow "C" and "D" size adapters made by Eneloop that hold a AA for use in things that use those sizes of batteries.

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Nov 22, 2020 06:58:41   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
foathog wrote:
If you have a mediocre camera then you don't need a top line grip. mediocre camera = mediocre grip.


I have a D850 and a D500. Neither has a "top of the line" $$$$$ grip. They have very good $$ grips.

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Nov 22, 2020 09:08:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
robertjerl wrote:
The grips have controls and a shutter button on them that are positioned for use when holding the camera in "portrait" mode. No more "pretzel twisting" of you arm, wrist and hand.
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For portrait orientation I find "hand on top" not uncomfortable at all, no "pretzel twisting".

Hand on bottom, totally uncomfortable. That's pretzel twisting!
Why would anyone use the hand on the bottom form.

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Nov 22, 2020 09:42:37   #
BobPliskin
 
I have tried two off brand battery grips over the years and hove found that they are not manufactured to the same specs as Brand units. They have failed at plastic weld points and the internal contacts have oxidized and require cleaning at the most Inopportune times.

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Nov 22, 2020 11:08:00   #
A. T.
 
StLouie1970 wrote:
I'm looking to purchase a battery grip for my Nikon 7500. There seems to be quite a few random brands on Amazon with mixed reviews. Anyone have a reccomendation?


Yes, I would purchase the Nikon grip, though very expensive, I have Nikon grips for my D500 and D850 and I'm very happy with them. I looked into several off brands and none of them looked as good as the Nikon. I'm sure they would have functioned appropriately but I think if you're going to spend the kind of money it takes to purchase an expensive DSLR, you should purchase a comparable grip.

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Nov 22, 2020 17:37:48   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Longshadow wrote:
Aren't accessories slightly different than the camera?



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Nov 22, 2020 17:52:00   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
StLouie1970 wrote:
I'm looking to purchase a battery grip for my Nikon 7500. There seems to be quite a few random brands on Amazon with mixed reviews. Anyone have a reccomendation?


B@H has a vello for$49, 1/4 the cost of Nikon. They stand behind what they sell.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1368615-REG/vello_bg_n18_bgn18_battery_grip_for.html/?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAiAtej9BRAvEiwA0UAWXn_DvJFgkduCJpqhxnwjJ_N7ejuZNGYXQBquAYKyXJEIX2X-g1szlRoCXGsQAvD_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y

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Nov 23, 2020 10:22:58   #
lmTrying Loc: WV Northern Panhandle
 
larryepage wrote:
Battery grips are deeply integrated with the electronic systems of the camera. Camera companies do not provide design details to the aftermarket folks. I had two aftermarket grips for an earlier camera. One worked fine unless I tried to use some of the advanced functions, like the joystick, which was completely non-functional. The other caused multiple camera functions to stop working, even when I was not accessing them from the grip. Bought a used Nikon grip and everything worked flawlessly. I've never bought another non-branded grip since.

Camera makers do not provide design information to folks who want to make peripherals for their cameras, so the makers have to guess and do their designs by trial and error. Usually they will get close. Sometimes they get really close but miss on some key things. I don't find the misses worth the savings. I also have found that the materials and profiles of the ersatz grips don't fully measure up...they just don't "feel" as good in use.
Battery grips are deeply integrated with the elect... (show quote)


You just told me everything I always wanted to know.

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Nov 23, 2020 10:46:55   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
larryepage wrote:
Battery grips are deeply integrated with the electronic systems of the camera. Camera companies do not provide design details to the aftermarket folks. I had two aftermarket grips for an earlier camera. One worked fine unless I tried to use some of the advanced functions, like the joystick, which was completely non-functional. The other caused multiple camera functions to stop working, even when I was not accessing them from the grip. Bought a used Nikon grip and everything worked flawlessly. I've never bought another non-branded grip since.
Camera makers do not provide design information to folks who want to make peripherals for their cameras, so the makers have to guess and do their designs by trial and error. Usually they will get close. Sometimes they get really close but miss on some key things. I don't find the misses worth the savings. I also have found that the materials and profiles of the ersatz grips don't fully measure up...they just don't "feel" as good in use.
Battery grips are deeply integrated with the elect... (show quote)


The only functions I need (desire) on the grip are shutter and focus buttons.
For any other function I use the buttons on the camera back.
Primary use for me: 2nd battery.
Secondary use: better camera handling.
Tertiary use: portrait shots.

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Nov 24, 2020 16:34:52   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Don't think that Nikon makes grips for the D7500. The aftermarket ones only hold one battery.

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