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Oct 20, 2020 08:16:59   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
Hi guys and gals critique these for me please. This was only my second time to shoot volleyball. I found it to be really tough for some reason. Need to get my angles for shots better and get cropped more in camera than in post.Thanks

Tom


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Oct 20, 2020 08:40:54   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
I think these are great! Go back and look through every image at the 100% pixel-level details. This is how you'll find more dramatic crops / close-ups. Example, look at player #15 serving with the judge in background. It looks like maybe there's a landscape crop of this player from the jersey number up through a crop of the lower half of the ball, maybe with some cloning to clean-up any spectator body parts from the background.

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Oct 20, 2020 08:48:43   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I think these are great! Go back and look through every image at the 100% pixel-level details. This is how you'll find more dramatic crops / close-ups. Example, look at player #15 serving with the judge in background. It looks like maybe there's a landscape crop of this player from the jersey number up through a crop of the lower half of the ball, maybe with some cloning to clean-up any spectator body parts from the background.


Thanks for the advice.

Tom

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Oct 20, 2020 09:03:24   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
If you stand in the corner of the court you can get good shots of them when they jump at the net to spike the ball. And standing in the top of the bleachers can get you some good one's too.

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Oct 20, 2020 09:11:31   #
Mi630
 
I tried volleyball a couple times and found it to be tough. The action is fast; the girls are quick and you don’t know where the ball is going. Good advice to be higher up in the stands. I never did get any good “dig” shots.

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Oct 20, 2020 09:21:39   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
If you know anyone involved perhaps mention that leaving the mask low as demonstrated by player 15 so that nose breathing is unfiltered is ineffective.
As my father would say like washing your feet with your socks on.
Good job with SS no blurring.
Challenge : get a shot of a spike and blocking combination

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Oct 21, 2020 05:58:01   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
jim quist wrote:
If you stand in the corner of the court you can get good shots of them when they jump at the net to spike the ball. And standing in the top of the bleachers can get you some good one's too.


I will try shots from bleachers and the corner. Thanks

Tom

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Oct 21, 2020 06:00:25   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
Mi630 wrote:
I tried volleyball a couple times and found it to be tough. The action is fast; the girls are quick and you don’t know where the ball is going. Good advice to be higher up in the stands. I never did get any good “dig” shots.


We will see what happens. i have a sub-state this Saturday 5 teams. Hope to get it together and get some decent shots. Thanks

Tom

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Oct 21, 2020 06:02:33   #
tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.
 
cyclespeed wrote:
If you know anyone involved perhaps mention that leaving the mask low as demonstrated by player 15 so that nose breathing is unfiltered is ineffective.
As my father would say like washing your feet with your socks on.
Good job with SS no blurring.
Challenge : get a shot of a spike and blocking combination


Like I said I have a sub-state shoot Saturday. Hopefully I can get the right angles to try and get good net play with the ball. Thanks

Tom

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Oct 21, 2020 07:52:22   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
You nailed some great shots - well done!!

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Oct 21, 2020 09:35:04   #
tomcat
 
I have no complaints at all about your images. They show the action extremely well and the players are well isolated in the frame. Try sitting on the floor if you want to get some really cool dig shots as the ball comes over the net. Watch for the serve with your other eye and then wait for the girls gathering where the ball is anticipated.

By the way, what was the camera, lens, and ISO you were using. I'm particularly interested in the ISO because I shoot a lot of volleyball and basketball in a dim gym.

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Oct 21, 2020 12:10:17   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
tshift wrote:
Hi guys and gals critique these for me please. This was only my second time to shoot volleyball. I found it to be really tough for some reason. Need to get my angles for shots better and get cropped more in camera than in post.Thanks

Tom


Hi Tom:
The shots of the player serving are wonderful.
In my opinion your taking the shot after the play is over. Volleyball is a very tough sport to shoot. I sit on the floor to the right or left of the net, you will find after a few plays the ball basically goes to the same player on the opposite side, the ball goes to the setter, from the setter to the front line for the play. For the digs focus and watch in anticipation for that player.

I also take pics. of the players during practice, they all go up to the net to spike the ball. You can get some good shots that way, you can prefocus on the player once again. Try it and you'll see this works.

Good luck on your next shoot. What settings, equip. 85 1.8 ???

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Oct 21, 2020 12:13:28   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
I agree that volleyball is tough to shoot, especially in dimly lit gyms. This is one sport in which I use my faster primes and I get lots of use out of my Sigma 135/1.8. I shoot wide open at @ 1/1000th and use AUTO ISO. When shooting indoors I prefer to take light readings on the court and use the results as long as the lighting is somewhat even. For White Balance I either set a custom one using an ExpoDisk and/or get a couple of shots with a color chart/grey card. The wide open aperture helps blur the background. Best of luck.

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Oct 21, 2020 12:31:19   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
tshift wrote:
Hi guys and gals critique these for me please. This was only my second time to shoot volleyball. I found it to be really tough for some reason. Need to get my angles for shots better and get cropped more in camera than in post.Thanks

Tom


These are great. Volleyball is hard to shoot one reason is the ball spends so much time away from the players and a key to a good shot we are told is eyes and ball in the frame. You have nailed the photography part! Well done! If it were me what I would work on now is composition. With any sport you always want to capture either emotion or the height of the action. For example the shot of the young lady on the floor and the ball is past her. Good shot but the great shot, the money shot would have been a split second earlier when she was diving for the ball and the ball was in front of her. Not an easy shot to get at all. But when you catch it, it is always a winner. Don’t be afraid to anticipate action and “spray and pray”. Burst shooting in sports is your friend.
Another thing many photographers forget (myself included) is the emotion shots. We get so caught up in trying to catch the action we forget there is other stories going on. Sometimes the best shots can be of the players on the court after a point and either their celebration or dejection if it was scored against them. Emotion in sports is compelling. Even shooting reactions of players on the bench watching can give you great images. Don’t give up on the shot either. Another example might be when someone is serving. My tendency is to automatically follow the ball and try and catch the action on the other side. Sometimes the best shot is to stay right on the player serving and catch their reaction to whether it was a good or bad serve. Be aware and look for those moments also. I think it was Barry Sanders mother who told him always act like you have been there before. So after a touch down he would just drop the ball(boring). But these look like high school kids, they haven’t been there before and they will show you lots of emotion if you look for it.
Great work looking forward to seeing more! Good luck.

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Oct 21, 2020 13:33:11   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
[quote=Jaackil]These are great. Volleyball is hard to shoot one reason is the ball spends so much time away from the players and a key to a good shot we are told is eyes and ball in the frame. You have nailed the photography part! Well done! If it were me what I would work on now is composition. With any sport you always want to capture either emotion or the height of the action. For example the shot of the young lady on the floor and the ball is past her. Good shot but the great shot, the money shot would have been a split second earlier when she was diving for the ball and the ball was in front of her. Not an easy shot to get at all. But when you catch it, it is always a winner. Don’t be afraid to anticipate action and “spray and pray”. Burst shooting in sports is your friend.
Another thing many photographers forget (myself included) is the emotion shots. We get so caught up in trying to catch the action we forget there is other stories going on. Sometimes the best shots can be of the players on the court after a point and either their celebration or dejection if it was scored against them. Emotion in sports is compelling. Even shooting reactions of players on the bench watching can give you great images. Don’t give up on the shot either. Another example might be when someone is serving. My tendency is to automatically follow the ball and try and catch the action on the other side. Sometimes the best shot is to stay right on the player serving and catch their reaction to whether it was a good or bad serve. Be aware and look for those moments also. I think it was Barry Sanders mother who told him always act like you have been there before. So after a touch down he would just drop the ball(boring). But these look like high school kids, they haven’t been there before and they will show you lots of emotion if you look for it.
Great work looking forward to seeing more! Good luck.

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