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Oct 20, 2020 00:40:01   #
coullone Loc: Paynesville, Victoria, Australia
 
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe nobody knows what it was...


First glance gives me the name Contax !
My mate had a 1939 model while I had a Leica IIIf (1937?).
Results? in the darkroom and in the final prints you could not pick which was which. The wallet was the final arbitrator.
Sold my Last Leica R8 in August and went Canon RP due to lighter weight. Still kept my Folding Voigtlander RF from 1952 even if It only gets used a few times a year, 120 -8 shots makes it a real luxury exercise!

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Oct 20, 2020 02:24:32   #
hrblaine
 
[quote=Longshadow]Everyone here will tell you to get what they use...
It's the best.

When I shot 35mm it was a Nikon. When I went digital, Canon. Both served me well. Which is best? My friend pro Charlie Harbutt always used a Leica with a normal lens. Who knows? Who cares? Not me! Harry

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Oct 20, 2020 07:16:07   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
User ID wrote:
Not quite.

I never hesitate to expect the impossible !

Well OK, almost never ... gotta make the occasional exceptions for the exceptional.


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Oct 20, 2020 11:08:17   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
n4jee wrote:
The only people that should care what anyone else buys should be stock holders in that company. They both learned to make optics from the Germans during WWII. The German teachers brought cameras to photograph their travels. They both introduced their first production camera in 1948. Each new model since then has some new feature that the other doesn't have. So, at any given time one might have the edge over the other. For most of us the decision to buy one or the other is economic. We have an inventory of one manufacturers lenses that we can't afford or can't be bothered to replace. There are some idiots in the world that think everyone should own what they own. Maybe to validate their own decision. They probably have an opinion on Fords vs Chevys too.
While Canon and Nikon have been the leaders for a long time there are now many other choices. So if you're looking for a new camera, don't ask here. You'll just get a bunch of BS. Read the reviews. fondle the hardware and make up your mind what's right for you.
Remember I said those Germans, that came to Japan to teach, brought cameras? Look at daddy and his two children by different wives.
The only people that should care what anyone else ... (show quote)

You might want to check your facts. Nikon was making optics in 1917. The first Canon cameras were fitted with Nikon lenses. Today, both companies produce excellent cameras and lenses - which is best depends upon which ignorant fanboy you listen to.

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Oct 20, 2020 12:20:45   #
User ID
 
GeneG wrote:
Wikipedia describes the Nikon I as a copy of the Contax with the cloth shutter copied from the Leica. Who am I to argue? My first Nikon was the FTN.( I misspoke when I said Canon. I meant Nikon I of course.)


Please proof read your “genealogy” post. Most anyone would read it as saying the Contax, as Nikon’s “daddy”, had a cloth copy of the Leica shutter. If you meant otherwise, it just doesn’t read how you meant it.

At any rate if you were trying to say that the Nikon had a cloth “Leica type” shutter, your historical knowledge is correct but the post doesn’t express what you meant.

FWIW, the actual Contax-I shutter was metal. The later versions of the Contax switched to cloth cuz the original metal one had problems.

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Oct 20, 2020 13:36:22   #
User ID
 
Leitz wrote:
You might want to check your facts. Nikon was making optics in 1917. The first Canon cameras were fitted with Nikon lenses. Today, both companies produce excellent cameras and lenses - which is best depends upon which ignorant fanboy you listen to.

Ooooooh, obscure facts games ! I wanna play, too. Joe Zauinal wrote this song for Cannonball Adderly, and it’s about (or at least its title is about) a camera and lens company with a long history.

Name that tune :-)

Hint:
JZ did NOT write “Rolleing on the River”.

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Oct 20, 2020 15:17:13   #
GeneG
 
User ID wrote:
Please proof read your “genealogy” post. Most anyone would read it as saying the Contax, as Nikon’s “daddy”, had a cloth copy of the Leica shutter. If you meant otherwise, it just doesn’t read how you meant it.

At any rate if you were trying to say that the Nikon had a cloth “Leica type” shutter, your historical knowledge is correct but the post doesn’t express what you meant.

FWIW, the actual Contax-I shutter was metal. The later versions of the Contax switched to cloth cuz the original metal one had problems.
Please proof read your “genealogy” post. Most anyo... (show quote)

You are absolutely correct. I attempted to edit the post but was informed that it was too late. I am sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

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Oct 20, 2020 17:07:36   #
User ID
 
GeneG wrote:
You are absolutely correct. I attempted to edit the post but was informed that it was too late. I am sorry if I ruffled your feathers.

No problem. That “time-out” feature of this forum can be exceedingly annoying.

Equally annoying is that you must post something if you begin a new post or a reply. You can’t just cancel a post once you’ve started it.

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Oct 21, 2020 08:12:15   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
n4jee wrote:
The only people that should care what anyone else buys should be stock holders in that company. They both learned to make optics from the Germans during WWII. The German teachers brought cameras to photograph their travels. They both introduced their first production camera in 1948. Each new model since then has some new feature that the other doesn't have. So, at any given time one might have the edge over the other. For most of us the decision to buy one or the other is economic. We have an inventory of one manufacturers lenses that we can't afford or can't be bothered to replace. There are some idiots in the world that think everyone should own what they own. Maybe to validate their own decision. They probably have an opinion on Fords vs Chevys too.
While Canon and Nikon have been the leaders for a long time there are now many other choices. So if you're looking for a new camera, don't ask here. You'll just get a bunch of BS. Read the reviews. fondle the hardware and make up your mind what's right for you.
Remember I said those Germans, that came to Japan to teach, brought cameras? Look at daddy and his two children by different wives.
The only people that should care what anyone else ... (show quote)

of the three shown here, I would definitely opt for the Leica.

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Oct 21, 2020 08:17:58   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
So advanced, it's simple....


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Oct 21, 2020 08:25:03   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Poor Nikon gets the world's worst assignments...


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Oct 21, 2020 09:03:05   #
Daryl New Loc: Wellington,New Zealand
 
Interesting

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Oct 21, 2020 09:33:36   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
You can with a Canon.


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Oct 21, 2020 10:40:46   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
The 1948 Nikon looks very much like German Carl Zeiss Contax of their pre-war model.

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Oct 21, 2020 11:52:51   #
mountainhigh Loc: San Diego Ca
 
User ID wrote:
Point is that the person posting a long illustrated history post is supposed to be the one who does know. And, the family resemblance between the parents and their respective offspring is plain as day.


I think it's obvious about the ancestors and the daddy that birthed cameras it was the Germans. then take the two different children that birthed the grand children Nikon and Canon, and their offspring the other brands.

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