n4jee wrote:
...While Canon and Nikon have been the leaders for a long time there are now many other choices. ....
An interesting post of misinformation. Anyone using SLRs since the 70s will probably remember there were "many others" then, too. Pentax, Olympus, Minolta, Konica, Leica, Contax, Ricoh, Rollei, Praktica, et al. All had loyal followers/users. IMHO, each made some fine cameras.
I am sure you know that under Douglas MacArthur Japan was not authorized to build anything that could be used in a war. I do not know about Canon but Nikon during the war was building all kind of optical instruments for the armed forces under military orders. They were also making lenses for the Canon bodies made at the time. Nikon followed Contax while Canon followed Leica. By around 1952 Nikon rangefinder bodies could use Leica lenses and lenses made by Nikon could fit Leica cameras. It was David Douglas Duncan the first journalist to use Nikon lenses on a Leica body that he used to photograph the war. It was not till he returned to this USA that Life editors knew that many of the images they published in the magazine front cover had been shot with Japanese lenses.
I am in agreement with you that it could be an economical suicide to mention in this forum by someone that he or she needs a new camera. In a majority of cases the most expensive bodies and lenses are mentioned. There is a tendency to forget that excellent second hand bodies and lenses are available at very reasonable prices. An old camera and lens can make as great images as a new professional one.
All cameras today have excellent quality and so their lenses. Independent lenses have excellent quality also and they sell for a fraction of those lenses specifically made by the manufacturer for their cameras. Camera or lens do not make the photographer.
Now we are using more and more mirrorless cameras. Nikon and Canon were five years behind Olympus and Panasonic but they are catching up rapidly. Sony in my humble opinion is the leader right now in mirrorless sales.
Plenty of choices and I have not forgotten Pentax but I am surprised they have not introduced a mirroless camera recently. It is not Nikon or Canon, there are other choices.
Well I like my Ford.
(Let the flames begin).
n4jee wrote:
The only people that should care what anyone else buys should be stock holders in that company. They both learned to make optics from the Germans during WWII. The German teachers brought cameras to photograph their travels. They both introduced their first production camera in 1948. Each new model since then has some new feature that the other doesn't have. So, at any given time one might have the edge over the other. For most of us the decision to buy one or the other is economic. We have an inventory of one manufacturers lenses that we can't afford or can't be bothered to replace. There are some idiots in the world that think everyone should own what they own. Maybe to validate their own decision. They probably have an opinion on Fords vs Chevys too.
While Canon and Nikon have been the leaders for a long time there are now many other choices. So if you're looking for a new camera, don't ask here. You'll just get a bunch of BS. Read the reviews. fondle the hardware and make up your mind what's right for you.
Remember I said those Germans, that came to Japan to teach, brought cameras? Look at daddy and his two children by different wives.
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YES I totally agree with that . I had several Uncles that brought Leicas, Lugers and Mausers home from WWII
Gerhard Osterbeck
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Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
n4jee wrote:
The only people that should care what anyone else buys should be stock holders in that company. They both learned to make optics from the Germans during WWII. The German teachers brought cameras to photograph their travels. They both introduced their first production camera in 1948. Each new model since then has some new feature that the other doesn't have. So, at any given time one might have the edge over the other. For most of us the decision to buy one or the other is economic. We have an inventory of one manufacturers lenses that we can't afford or can't be bothered to replace. There are some idiots in the world that think everyone should own what they own. Maybe to validate their own decision. They probably have an opinion on Fords vs Chevys too.
While Canon and Nikon have been the leaders for a long time there are now many other choices. So if you're looking for a new camera, don't ask here. You'll just get a bunch of BS. Read the reviews. fondle the hardware and make up your mind what's right for you.
Remember I said those Germans, that came to Japan to teach, brought cameras? Look at daddy and his two children by different wives.
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Just buy Sony or Fuji and be done with this Canon vs. Nikon nonsense!
bwa
CHG_CANON wrote:
The most creative people are those willing to work with any brand of camera.
But only if it has a full frame sensor. . . .
Whaddaya mean, Ford or Chevy is best???
MOPAR is the bestest, by far!!!! 😎
And because I've got six lenses that fit it, I'll stick with my Nikon Df.
Is there anybody in this blog that can really tell what brand of camera has taken a particular photograph??
There are no rules for good photographs, great photographs have just one: the camera used was better than yours.
Nikon vs. Canon… Ford vs. Chevy… Army vs. Navy… USC vs. UCLA… Baseball vs. Football… Hamburgers vs. Hot Dogs…
It doesn't matter. Personal preference. As has already been said, each has or does something the other does have/do. And yes, great photographs are possible regardless of the brand of camera. Doesn't matter if you're using a Nikon D5, Canon EOS-1D, Pentax, Yashica, Beseler-Topcon, or an Agfa-Karat 36.
If one knows what they're doing, they'll get good images with anything. If one does NOT, it doesn't matter if they have a D5, EOS-1D or anything else. They may as well shoot with a Kodak Instamatic.
I like that!
How many times have we been asked, when we show a good photograph off, "What kind of camera do you use?" Or the other variation, "That camera of yours sure takes good pictures," which of course always insults me, as the photographer.
DTjossem wrote:
I like that!
How many times have we been asked, when we show a good photograph off, "What kind of camera do you use?" Or the other variation, "That camera of yours sure takes good pictures," which of course always insults me, as the photographer.
Yes, I've had that, too. "I'll bet you get great pictures with that."
Uh-huh. I also get pretty bad ones, but I never show those to anyone! That's why they're always telling me "you're such a good photographer!". Sure. Because I only show them the GOOD ones!
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