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Oct 17, 2020 06:34:58   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. Phone pix are nearly 100% hardware and nearly zero technique. Most phones offer the user no control over the camera ... unless one thinks that aiming is a technique.


One's ability to "aim" is the art...if we can't pre see it, well, we can always talk about gear.

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Oct 17, 2020 06:45:35   #
IHH61 Loc: Homestead Fl
 
E.L.. Shapiro wrote:
Perhaps there is no much of an appetite for delving into technique on this forum. I say this because I dish out a lot of technical responses to questions and usually they did get very much traction. That's alright I figured out that I have a small audience but there is not much feedback.

There are just lots of folks that just feel the answer to most of their photographic aspirations, questions, challenges and solutions are equipment based. Someone will post an image and ask which lens the should have used or purchased to improve an image or improve this type of image in the future. If I answer and imply or suggest that the lens they used is perfectly fine but perhaps they are no using it correctly- that does no go over well. Some folks want o know what flash to buy but there is little or discussion of the dynamics of lighting- which, by the way, could fill an encyclopedia or at least constitute a special forum section.

This thread is too typical. The OP wants to know why there is not more discussion of technique but the discussion turns into a post-processing pro and con thing. Post-processing is nothing more than a methodology based on many techniques- it's part and parcel of digital imaging and should be discussed in detail rather than argued as means of fakery or fixes for poorly crafted photography.

Automation in photography precludes thechique?- that's nonsense! Nor does film photography require more technical skill than digital photography- it's just a bit different. Most of the same theory applies- just different tools.

To the OP: If you want to discuss technique- just ASK. Pose a question, write an article, and guess what? There are many talented and knowledgeable folks in this forum that will provide conversation, answers and solutions.
Perhaps there is no much of an appetite for delvin... (show quote)


Always enjoy your responses. Don’t usually comment because they are so complete. Should say thanks for your efforts so , THANKS!!

Hugh

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Oct 17, 2020 07:01:05   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
The art of photography should be (and used to be) recording reality, including the wonders of the world. To hang a photograph meant hanging a window into a real part of the world. Paintings were the medium to display "artist's licence" - a good description for imagination, which is not what photography was. Nowadays photography is used too much by aspiring artists who will never know one end of a paint brush from another and can push the AI buttons instead.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:08:13   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Delderby wrote:
The art of photography should be (and used to be) recording reality, including the wonders of the world. To hang a photograph meant hanging a window into a real part of the world. Paintings were the medium to display "artist's licence" - a good description for imagination, which is not what photography was. Nowadays photography is used too much by aspiring artists who will never know one end of a paint brush from another and can push the AI buttons instead.


You're implying that photography shouldn't be used as a creative medium. Recording reality is one of the lesser aspects of photography. And painting is just one medium for providing a creative outlet for artists' imaginations. You don't have to be a painter to be an artist.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:09:54   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
LWW wrote:
I agree with all that, but many people use it as a crutch for never developing proper skills.



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Oct 17, 2020 07:12:07   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
LWW wrote:
I agree with all that, but many people use it as a crutch for never developing proper skills.


A photographer that hasn't developed proper PP skills is never going to realise his/her full potential.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:14:16   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. Phone pix are nearly 100% hardware and nearly zero technique. Most phones offer the user no control over the camera ... unless one thinks that aiming is a technique.


Or failure to understand a picture is more than a camera.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:14:23   #
cmc4214 Loc: S.W. Pennsylvania
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
On the 11th I wrote, "Very few long-time members seem interested in hosting educational discussions."

srt101fan observed, "it may not be lack of interest but awareness of the difficulty of doing it and concern regarding the reception your topic might get?"

He has a valid point. Some of my own past main discussion topics became quite the spectacle, so I don't really blame those who are reluctant to try.

But, Steve, if not you then who?
On the 11th I wrote, i "Very few long-time m... (show quote)


Part of the problem is that the "written word" does not convey emotion very well. For example: a constructive criticism can sometimes be taken as an insult when that is not the intention, or what one believes is humorous is taken as an attack etc.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:16:10   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
R.G. wrote:
You're implying that photography shouldn't be used as a creative medium. Recording reality is one of the lesser aspects of photography. And painting is just one medium for providing a creative outlet for artists' imaginations. You don't have to be a painter to be an artist.


I agree that recording reality is one aspect of photography, but I wouldn’t call it lesser.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:22:19   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Mac wrote:
I agree that recording reality is one aspect of photography, but I wouldn’t call it lesser.


I was referring specifically to recording reality in a journalistic sense. Capturing things like storytelling or the decisive moment is usually more important than capturing details.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:22:39   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
R.G. wrote:
A photographer that hasn't developed proper PP skills is never going to realise his/her full potential.


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Oct 17, 2020 07:24:02   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
In photojournalism/documentary photography the goal is not to present an aesthetically pleasing result, but to present stark reality. But photojournalism/documentary is just one aspect of photography.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:31:08   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
larryepage wrote:
I would say yes. With good technique, it is possible to hand hold a camera at what would seem to be ridiculous shutter open times...like a quarter of a second at 50mm...or even a little longer.


I know how to hold both a camera and a pistol, but I inherited essential tremor from my father so I need vibration reduction.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:31:36   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Delderby wrote:
The art of photography should be (and used to be) recording reality, including the wonders of the world. To hang a photograph meant hanging a window into a real part of the world. Paintings were the medium to display "artist's licence" - a good description for imagination, which is not what photography was. Nowadays photography is used too much by aspiring artists who will never know one end of a paint brush from another and can push the AI buttons instead.


I hate to see anyone wanting to define what photography "should be" for others. The fact is, from the very beginnings of photography, some photographers have used it to try to imitate "reality", which is always an illusion anyway. But other photographers have always tried to create a purely photographic vision which differs from the way the eye sees things. Both are valid and photography is inclusive enough for different approaches. There's certainly room in photography for imagination.

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Oct 17, 2020 07:37:50   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When you look at another's work that you admire, is it the composition, the focus, the colors, the processing, the subject or just the model of camera and the pixel resolution?

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