Have you noticed? Technique has disappeared
Oct 17, 2020 07:38:31 #
R.G. wrote:
In photojournalism/documentary photography the goal is not to present an aesthetically pleasing result, but to present stark reality. But photojournalism/documentary is just one aspect of photography.
Right. One that does not require a great deal of PP ability.
Oct 17, 2020 07:41:31 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
SteveR wrote:
Years ago, technique of various kinds was a big part of the discussions in this section. Now it seems it's all about equipment, software or problems relating to the two.
Technique is a constant, equipment and software and problems come and go with the tide.
Oct 17, 2020 07:41:56 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
When you look at another's work that you admire, is it the composition, the focus, the colors, the processing, the subject or just the model of camera and the pixel resolution?
For me it’s how the image makes me feel.
Oct 17, 2020 07:45:26 #
And with some of the new cameras I could take 80 photographs of a bird in flight, find one that was good, crop it way down, and proudly show off what a good job I had done. It can yield a really good photograph, but the feeling of fulfillment isn't quite like in the film days when there wasn't instant gratification and each photograph required time in the darkroom or money spent in processing fees. My greatest pride was when I was using a 4x5 view camera which was heavy, and setting up for a single photograph required maybe 20 minutes or more for light metering and getting a really good composition (viewed upside down underneath a black drape at the back of the camera).
Oct 17, 2020 07:47:53 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
JD750 wrote:
Oh no that is only how it is used as a crutch. The purpose of post processing is much broader.
But that is the point. Just about every feature you can think of associated uniquely with digital photography is really little more than a crutch, splint, or brace to allow capturing images without having to do the work. Very little of merit is captured today that was not captured somewhere along the way in the days of film. It's just that no longer do you have to have skill, patience, and persistence to do it. Just turn a couple of dials, set to continuous release, and press the shutter release. Anyone can do it now.
Oct 17, 2020 07:52:03 #
User ID wrote:
Uh huh. Phone pix are nearly 100% hardware and nearly zero technique. Most phones offer the user no control over the camera ... unless one thinks that aiming is a technique.
I think you would be surprised with the amount of control that can be had with some smart phone cameras, using good apps.
will
Oct 17, 2020 08:26:27 #
R.G. wrote:
A photographer that hasn't developed proper PP skills is never going to realise his/her full potential.
So, it's the software and it's creator who makes a photographer?
Oct 17, 2020 08:34:53 #
JD750 wrote:
I didn’t notice technique has disappeared, but now that you mention it I do agree discussions here are more about software and gear.
So I have noticed and we have become a nation of people who can no longer fix anything. Nearly everything I own, now, was imported from another country and that worries me . I hope the Teacher's Union is paying attention and includes our trades back into their curriculum.
Oct 17, 2020 08:35:19 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
SteveR wrote:
Years ago, technique of various kinds was a big part of the discussions in this section. Now it seems it's all about equipment, software or problems relating to the two.
That's just your perception.
Oct 17, 2020 08:37:11 #
Technique is what happens after technology. It is about pushing the envelope.
Oct 17, 2020 08:42:28 #
Jim70 wrote:
yep, that's why I moved back to film.
I with you on that point. Off the wall question: Is not technique build into the cameras today, because of that is not the camera the technique? Understand how to work the camera one understand the technique. Odd question, yes.
Oct 17, 2020 08:42:28 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The road to hell is paved with plans to recover it in post.
I already have great equipment so I am waiting for Topaz AI and Luminar 4 to make me a better photog, grin.
Smile,
JimmyT Sends
Oct 17, 2020 08:48:37 #
machia
Loc: NJ
Technique is sitting down at a drafting table and deciding what tools you need for a given task, then using those tools to complete the task.
Technology is turning on the computer and downloading a CAD program.
Technology is turning on the computer and downloading a CAD program.
Oct 17, 2020 08:57:11 #
kymarto wrote:
Technique is what happens after technology. It is about pushing the envelope.
EXACTLY!!!
Nostalgia is great, but I have no desire to return to the days of sending off the film on Monday after a weekend of shooting to the mail-order lab.
Having them cut the film through my best shot and send it back to me in ten+ days.
By then I had forgotten what my settings were on my SRT 101.
Since I am red-green colorblind and not a naturally gifted photog, I rely on technology to help me to achieve acceptable (to me) pics.
I embrace technology and I use it.
Technology makes me . . .
Smile,
JimmyT Sends
PS: Sorry for the rant, but it does make me feel better, grin.
Oct 17, 2020 09:04:38 #
Blair Shaw Jr wrote:
So I have noticed and we have become a nation of people who can no longer fix anything. Nearly everything I own, now, was imported from another country and that worries me . I hope the Teacher's Union is paying attention and includes our trades back into their curriculum.
I share you concern but I think it's kind of outside the topic a bit. However, I expected what you have noticed now since the 80's. Back then I saw that was the way they go.
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