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Sep 26, 2020 23:16:37   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
letmedance wrote:
The Fucxing boyfriend said he heard the knocking, read the GD story for Christ Sakes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/fact-check-debunking-7-widely-shared-rumors-in-the-breonna-taylor-police-shooting/ar-BB15PIsx


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Sep 26, 2020 23:39:38   #
pendennis
 
Tex-s wrote:
True, but looking to FOIA the grand jury that ruled on another case the day of or the day before or hte day after.....This tactic has been used locally.


Kentucky's statutes on Grand Jury secrecy are well-established. There may not even be a procedure for a FOIA request, or that the proceedings and make-up of the grand juries are even mentioned in FOIA statutes. The attorney representing Taylor's family is blowing a lot of hot air, trying to keep the fire stoked.

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Sep 26, 2020 23:40:19   #
btbg
 
michaelsinger wrote:
MS. TAYLOR IS NOT AN EXCUSE; SHE IS AN INNOCENT DEAD BLACK WOMAN. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?


Well first she isn't innocent. She had been dating a drug pusher and knew it. Second of course she was a tragic death. That doesn't mean that people aren't using her death for an excuse to r**t and l**t because that is exactly what they are doing.

Those officers should not have been charged. Any charges should go against the officer who asked for the warrant and the judge who signed off on it. No one else did anything wrong except the officer who wrongly fired his gun from outside the residence. Look at the facts. Her death is a tragedy, but in no way does that mean it is not being used as an excuse. Those two statements are not mutually exclusive.

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Sep 26, 2020 23:44:02   #
Tex-s
 
michaelsinger wrote:
MS. TAYLOR IS NOT AN EXCUSE; SHE IS AN INNOCENT DEAD BLACK WOMAN. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?


By the unsubstantiated logic you seem to follow, cops would be to blame for the death of a black child who shoved a knife into an electrical outlet while the cops were nearby. There is NO evidence of intent or r****m in the B. Taylor story. None. That there was a terrible result is no more the fault of no-knock warrants or the cops than it is of people willfully ignoring laws. Distributing illegal drugs, laundering both money and packages and knowingly associating with criminal activity by providing t***sport to the active criminal are WAY more culpable acts than a few cops with substandard training or instincts. Doing a legal job legally, albeit poorly, is not criminal. Distributing illegal drugs or facilitating the distribution IS regardless of age, sex, race, or location and bad results stemming from bad choices is NOT evidence of r****m.

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Sep 27, 2020 01:43:34   #
cwp3420
 
DennyT wrote:
So what ? They are “suspects” no convicted people and still have their constitutional rights . No - knock warrants in my opinion take away the mist fundamental
Right of innocent until proven guilty .

No knock warrants are used when police are to lazy to do their job . It’s an easy way out . If the occupants ( like this one) exercise. Their right to protect themselves then they are automatically in the wrong. .

https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/the_real_shock-and-awe_behind_no-knock_police_raids
So what ? They are “suspects” no convicted people ... (show quote)


So if the police have a credible threat that there are a group of radical Islamic bomb makers creating a bomb in an apartment, and that they wear suicide vests, it’s best to knock on the door and ask if they could have a friendly chat with the police.? That’s a moronic idea if I’ve ever heard one.

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Sep 27, 2020 01:49:24   #
cwp3420
 
DennyT wrote:
But if someone calls ( and it is unknown if he heard them or not)
And immediately breaks the door down in civilian cloths. . I may start shouting slso.


What would you shout at them, Denny? Asking for a friend.

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Sep 27, 2020 02:18:01   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
DennyT wrote:
But if someone calls ( and it is unknown if he heard them or not)
And immediately breaks the door down in civilian cloths. . I may start shouting slso.


Forced entries and warrants are pretty much universally done by Uniformed LEO, plain clothed are usually not first in line for a variety of reasons, main one being visual ID as a LEO.

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Sep 27, 2020 03:51:30   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
letmedance wrote:
The Fucxing boyfriend said he heard the knocking, read the GD story for Christ Sakes.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/fact-check-debunking-7-widely-shared-rumors-in-the-breonna-taylor-police-shooting/ar-BB15PIsx


T***h is Kryptonite to l*****ts.

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Sep 27, 2020 03:54:20   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
michaelsinger wrote:
Have you ever heard of S***ery, Jim Crow, really...get a life.


You mean the policies of the democrats that opposed b****s and native Americans?

Might you direct me to a living former s***e or former s***e owner please?

Read a book.

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Sep 27, 2020 10:07:50   #
FrumCA
 
Tex-s wrote:
By the unsubstantiated logic you seem to follow, cops would be to blame for the death of a black child who shoved a knife into an electrical outlet while the cops were nearby. There is NO evidence of intent or r****m in the B. Taylor story. None. That there was a terrible result is no more the fault of no-knock warrants or the cops than it is of people willfully ignoring laws. Distributing illegal drugs, laundering both money and packages and knowingly associating with criminal activity by providing t***sport to the active criminal are WAY more culpable acts than a few cops with substandard training or instincts. Doing a legal job legally, albeit poorly, is not criminal. Distributing illegal drugs or facilitating the distribution IS regardless of age, sex, race, or location and bad results stemming from bad choices is NOT evidence of r****m.
By the unsubstantiated logic you seem to follow, c... (show quote)

Excellent!!
Your summary is so blatantly logical and obvious that it's scary most of our left winger friends can't comprehend it.

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Sep 27, 2020 11:28:33   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
pendennis wrote:
The M-16A-2 was built to sustain 3-round bursts, the earlier model used full automatic, as did the M4-A1 "carbine" version.

When I was in the Seabees, I was assigned the automatic rifleman slot in our squad. I used the M-14E2, the full auto version. It was not fun to shoot. Even with the bipod, you couldn't lean hard enough to keep it down, but I eventually learned to keep the bursts to around 3-4 rounds.

I used the M-16A2 during reserve training, and used an accurized version for the National Matches at Camp Perry. I only got to "fam" fire the A-1 version, but got to run a few mags through it on full auto. And contrary to popular opinion, the A-1 is a b!tch to hold down on full auto. I got to run off a belt in a 1919-A4, which had been converted to 7.62 NATO in the 80's at the Knob Creek shoot.

Now for real fun, the M-2 Ma Deuce, and the M-60 were both a lot of fun to shoot.
The M-16A-2 was built to sustain 3-round bursts, ... (show quote)


I know what the three round burst is. I am saying I never fired the M16 with the three round burst. In Vietnam I was issued the M14 and never the M16. I used the M60 at first as a door gunner but since it had such limited range in flight the USMC went to the Browning 50 caliber. Of course a much better weapon and dependable. I used the 1919-A4 in training and found it to be one hell of a machine gun. If only I could afford a few.

Dennis

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