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Sep 1, 2020 18:35:42   #
L-Fox
 
AzPicLady wrote:
So I decided to do a bit more playing. I thought this image might be a good candidate for B&W as it had some contrast to it and wasn't too busy. Thanks to Cany, I worked to include some foreground interest when I shot this. I didn't like all the weeds, but I did like the boulders that were there. I started with a pretty bland image (see the original jpeg) and did some LR work first - took the highlights down a lot and the shadows up a bit, added some clarity and a bit of contrast. Then, it went to Topaz Sharpen for stablizing work. Then it was off to SE where I applied a red filter to bring up the sky a bit and in one of the other settings (don't remember what it's called), I took the sensitivity to blue down a touch.

So, suggestions? Recommendations? And THANKS!
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Sep 1, 2020 18:39:32   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
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Sep 2, 2020 06:09:02   #
nanaval Loc: Cornwall
 
Very nice Kathy...

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Sep 2, 2020 08:57:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
nanaval wrote:
Very nice Kathy...


Thank you!

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Sep 2, 2020 09:44:54   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
AzPicLady wrote:
So I decided to do a bit more playing. I thought this image might be a good candidate for B&W as it had some contrast to it and wasn't too busy. Thanks to Cany, I worked to include some foreground interest when I shot this. I didn't like all the weeds, but I did like the boulders that were there. I started with a pretty bland image (see the original jpeg) and did some LR work first - took the highlights down a lot and the shadows up a bit, added some clarity and a bit of contrast. Then, it went to Topaz Sharpen for stablizing work. Then it was off to SE where I applied a red filter to bring up the sky a bit and in one of the other settings (don't remember what it's called), I took the sensitivity to blue down a touch.

So, suggestions? Recommendations? And THANKS!
So I decided to do a bit more playing. I thought ... (show quote)


I didn't really care for the composition of the original. Trees dead center and the mountains and clouds on the right did not add anything to the shot. So I stretched the canvas to the right, bottom and top to get rid of some of the distractions. The final action was to flip the shot horizontally. This brought everything into "focus" for me. The trees are no longer centered and the leading lines on the left lead the eye to the trees. I left your copyright in the shot so you can see it was flipped. Comments?

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Sorry for any confusion. Many thanks. LINDA


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Sep 2, 2020 12:19:41   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Indeed the original image is overexposed. Always keep in mind that when metering a scene with digital metering should be done from an important bright area to keep details in the highlights.
Your b&w rendition is very good and perhaps still too bright for my taste. Just play with small amounts of adjustments to contrast and highlights and see if that fits your taste. All b&w images benefit from using contrast but at times we overdo it. I guess it is a matter of taste.

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Sep 2, 2020 12:26:01   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Kathy, you are taking to B&W conversions like a duck to water.

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Sep 2, 2020 12:32:53   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
camerapapi wrote:
Indeed the original image is overexposed. Always keep in mind that when metering a scene with digital metering should be done from an important bright area to keep details in the highlights.
Your b&w rendition is very good and perhaps still too bright for my taste. Just play with small amounts of adjustments to contrast and highlights and see if that fits your taste. All b&w images benefit from using contrast but at times we overdo it. I guess it is a matter of taste.


Well, as I explained, the overexposure was due to camera malfunction, so no amount of "correction" of settings was of any benefit. I actually do know how. I'm surprised at your comment about the B&W being too bright, as I normally get things too dark for most folks. So, do you think it's overdone on the contrast? I can't tell from your comment, but since you mention that, I think perhaps so. I really appreciate your comments.

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Sep 2, 2020 12:33:38   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Kathy, you are taking to B&W conversions like a duck to water.


Thanks. This is what I did most in the darkroom. Somehow SE doesn't have the same "flavor" as developer and fixer!

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Sep 2, 2020 13:48:33   #
NikonGal Loc: Central Oregon
 
Kathy thank you for posting and starting such an interesting thread. I need the help with B/W and I'm learning right along with you. Bev

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Sep 2, 2020 13:56:49   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
NikonGal wrote:
Kathy thank you for posting and starting such an interesting thread. I need the help with B/W and I'm learning right along with you. Bev


Thanks, NikonGal. It's a curve!

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Sep 2, 2020 14:59:52   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
SonyA580 wrote:
I didn't really care for the composition of the original. Trees dead center and the mountains and clouds on the right did not add anything to the shot. So I stretched the canvas to the right, bottom and top to get rid of some of the distractions. The final action was to flip the shot horizontally. This brought everything into "focus" for me. The trees are no longer centered and the leading lines on the left lead the eye to the trees. I left your copyright in the shot so you can see it was flipped. Comments?

From the section manager: For the first half of 2019, we had the section default be that edits were allowed unless specifically denied. Due to forum-wide issues and rules, I had to change that when I returned to manager status in December 2019. If OP doesn't request edits or have a permanent statement in signature, please be sure to ask permission. For further information, see https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-184368-1.html

Sorry for any confusion. Many thanks. LINDA


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I appreciate your efforts here, Sony. I see your point about uncentering the trees. I'm not really so concerned about stuff centered as many are. I'll have to think about doing that sort of crop. Flipping images usually never occurs to me, so thanks for that suggestion also.

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Sep 2, 2020 16:51:44   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
So I tried following some of the suggestions I received. And this is what I've come up with. Mike, thanks for the suggestion to darken that lighter hill where it meets the cloud. FotoArtist, I tried to bring up a bit more in the cloud. I got a little bit. And to Sony, sorry, flipping the image conflicts with my journalistic mind, but I did crop it a little. I didn't want to lose the boulder lower right, but I decided there wasn't anything on the left side I couldn't live without. I tried a 4x5, but that cropped too much, so this comes out a weird size. But it did move the trees a bit.


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Sep 2, 2020 18:45:59   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
Great result! The result is what matters not the process. Thanks for sharing.

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Sep 2, 2020 19:25:34   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
cambriaman wrote:
Great result! The result is what matters not the process. Thanks for sharing.


THANKS!

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