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Aug 30, 2020 12:45:27   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
yds0066 wrote:
Then why are Police being fired almost immediately after a shooting, many have not been charged. Aren’t they innocent until proven guilty?


Where do you work that you need to be convicted in court before you are fired.
Most people do not have the benefit of a police union to hide their crimes.

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Aug 30, 2020 13:08:21   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
yds0066 wrote:
Then why are Police being fired almost immediately after a shooting, many have not been charged. Aren’t they innocent until proven guilty?


As a matter of US law you are correct. But that does not affect what the media does or non-legal entities.

The police can come back with a civil suit after their court case. Actually they need not wait and their unions will probably support them before that happens.

A grand jury recently decided to not charge the policeman in the Brown case (Ferguson). Six years ago? Notice that the MSM barely covered that. But his life was ruined by them and they continue to harrass: https://news.yahoo.com/6-years-michael-brown-death-000000477.html?ocid=uxbndlbing

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Aug 30, 2020 13:58:06   #
rwoodvira
 
Generally, the police in question are suspended pending a formal inquiry. The rights of an employee to employment differ from the rights of a citizen to be arrested and prosecuted. Take the kneeling the neck - if this is against police conduct he or she can be fired; if it k**ls someone the result is at least some form of manslaughter.

I would not want to be a cop right now.

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Aug 30, 2020 15:54:54   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
IDguy wrote:
As a matter of US law you are correct. But that does not affect what the media does or non-legal entities.

The police can come back with a civil suit after their court case. Actually they need not wait and their unions will probably support them before that happens.

A grand jury recently decided to not charge the policeman in the Brown case (Ferguson). Six years ago? Notice that the MSM barely covered that. But his life was ruined by them and they continue to harrass: https://news.yahoo.com/6-years-michael-brown-death-000000477.html?ocid=uxbndlbing
As a matter of US law you are correct. But that do... (show quote)



Not exactly right.
A grand jury cleared the officer in 2014.

The new prosecutor reopened the case and announced he came to same conclusion , but no grand jury .

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Aug 30, 2020 16:18:59   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
letmedance wrote:
That seems about right, a cop is guilty the moment he steps out of his car. Take the Kenosha incident, the cops tried every thing in their power to control the man with non lethal force, in the end it took lethal force to keep him from grabbing a weapon hidden in his car. It is evident from the videos and eyewitnesses that the police did not just drive up and shoot him, they did not go out looking for a n****r to cap.


Despite your unt***hs, just one word defines your r****t thoughts.

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Aug 30, 2020 17:18:05   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Not exactly right.
A grand jury cleared the officer in 2014.

The new prosecutor reopened the case and announced he came to same conclusion , but no grand jury .


Thanks for that clarification. So a new prosecutor was trying to stir up more r**ts?

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Aug 30, 2020 17:24:11   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
IDguy wrote:
Thanks for that clarification. So a new prosecutor was trying to stir up more r**ts?


No not really . It was still a major issue in the St. Louis area. The new prosecutor elected 2 years ago was in effect putting it to rest once and for all . Most in St. Louis didn’t even know the relook at the case was going on .

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Aug 30, 2020 17:50:10   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
IDguy wrote:
As a matter of US law you are correct. But that does not affect what the media does or non-legal entities.

The police can come back with a civil suit after their court case. Actually they need not wait and their unions will probably support them before that happens.

A grand jury recently decided to not charge the policeman in the Brown case (Ferguson). Six years ago? Notice that the MSM barely covered that. But his life was ruined by them and they continue to harrass: https://news.yahoo.com/6-years-michael-brown-death-000000477.html?ocid=uxbndlbing
As a matter of US law you are correct. But that do... (show quote)


Not covered. ?The grand jury verdict was announced on live tv coverage .

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Aug 30, 2020 17:51:03   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
letmedance wrote:
That seems about right, a cop is guilty the moment he steps out of his car. Take the Kenosha incident, the cops tried every thing in their power to control the man with non lethal force, in the end it took lethal force to keep him from grabbing a weapon hidden in his car. It is evident from the videos and eyewitnesses that the police did not just drive up and shoot him, they did not go out looking for a n****r to cap.


And then shot him 7?times in the back !

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Aug 30, 2020 18:39:26   #
CWGordon
 
A job is not protected the way a defendant might be. For those many of you who don’t understand Constitutional law, what is specifically protected are “life and liberty...”. You can lose a job for almost anything. Police who k**l are usually on admin leave - a “paid not to work” status. The protection the ultimately receive through legislation and contracts, while well-meaning, prevents most from ever being truly fired. Those who are are blatantly and obviously very guilty of serious crimes, such as murder. Maybe you have heard of that crime. You are not supposed to murder people. That is just as true for murdering people of color as it is white people. I know many do not agree w/my feelings on that, but I believe the underlying theory of law is just that!
Maybe I’m wrong!

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Aug 30, 2020 22:08:57   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Put an end to this none sense thread...
Unemployment payment is a state issue . Feds have no say in the matter .

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