Trying to match colors: Having admired StanMac's sooc images here , I decided to try a raw+jpg with the same camera (Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100). I would like to match the colors of the...

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Having admired StanMac's sooc images here, I decided to try a raw+jpg with the same camera (Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100).

I would like to match the colors of the raw to the jpg shown below. In my PSE's ACR section, I have tried changing WB (in-camera set to auto) and vibrance, and in the main workspace I've tried various combinations of single and global color saturation, brightness etc, but can't find the right recipe.

#2 is the raw file, if anyone is interested in puzzle-solving and educating me on what I'm seeing

Thank you!!

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sooc jpg, auto WB, "natural" scene mode.

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Raw file below
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UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT

I am interested in the answer too.

Fred Harwood Loc: Sheffield, Mass.

When I open it in ACR (Elements) I see little difference. Perhaps his has a tad more blue?

Will follow.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

UTMike wrote:

I am interested in the answer too.

Are you interested because of one of your cameras, Mike? Which one?

I'm reminded of my Canon sx50 where I learned early on that I couldn't match the clarity of the jpg's - of course that was when I was shooting an eagle's nest that was barely visible with the naked eye - ha. And I would like to say that was before I knew much about processing raw.

But...in the intervening years I haven't gained as much practical editing knowledge as I should have. I kind of got side-tracked by textures, brushes and fanciful pp

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Fred Harwood wrote:

When I open it in ACR (Elements) I see little difference. Perhaps his has a tad more blue?

Will follow.

Hmm, I see quite a significant difference (PSE 2018 with no updates for two years 'cause I keep offline).

I thought blue might be involved also, but couldn't find any in the pic when trying saturation of just that color (unless I'm confusing with one or more of the five different images I tried before this one).

UTMike Loc: South Jordan, UT

Linda From Maine wrote:

Are you interested because of one of your cameras,... (show quote)

I am working almost exclusively with my Sony a7r3, Linda, but I am interested because WB and color are issues in which I believe I need more experience. I want to get the most out of my Lightroom and PS subscription.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

UTMike wrote:

I am working almost exclusively with my Sony a7r3, Linda, but I am interested because WB and color are issues in which I believe I need more experience. I want to get the most out of my Lightroom and PS subscription.

Thanks Mike! I looked at your last two topics and the pics I viewed gave no exif info, so I had to ask about the camera

R.G. Loc: Scotland

My first general impressions were that the jpeg was greener and yellower. The raw file comes with a suggested +17 for the Tint slider in Lr, which seems quite a lot. Zeroing the Tint slider got the raw image nearer to the jpeg, as did a slight WB shift towards yellow. I got the impression that brightening yellow would have helped, but the camera probably works with channels (rgb) rather than specific colours, and I'm not sure how to reproduce channel alterations in Lr.

The WB shift affected the green leaves as well as the red blossom. I got the impression that the leaves didn't need as much of a WB shift as the blossom, so there must be other factors at work.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

R.G. wrote:

My first general impressions were that the jpeg wa... (show quote)

Thanks very much, R.G.! I've just been exploring channels because of another thread. PSE apparently had color channels at one time, but not for several years. Interesting to hear you have a "suggested" tint in LR.

I'll probably keep the raw+jpg option on this little compact camera, partly because it might be used more for "reality" snapshots in good light than the pixel harvesting I do for play time with my M4/3 cameras

I may also experiment with my old Topaz Detail on some of the jpgs that I otherwise like for their color. That software helped jpgs on my sx50.

Appreciate your time!

pmorin Loc: Huntington Beach, Palm Springs

Linda From Maine wrote:

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Like Fred Harwood, after I opened both files, the differences were that the raw file seems a bit darker than the jpeg. I could fairly match the color in Affinity just by opening it in that medium because it is set to open all my files in sRGB. The rw2 file is in RGB which makes it darker. After opening the raw I added exposure and saturation and it came very close to the jpeg. I imagine further tweaking would get me there.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

pmorin wrote:

Like Fred Harwood, after I opened both files, the differences were that the raw file seems a bit darker than the jpeg. I could fairly match the color in Affinity just by opening it in that medium because it is set to open all my files in sRGB. The rw2 file is in RGB which makes it darker. After opening the raw I added exposure and saturation and it came very close to the jpeg. I imagine further tweaking would get me there.

Interesting to hear. Thanks so much for your time, Pete; I may have tried too hard or given up in the raw editor too soon. There's also the RGB question since I have my camera set to sRGB.

I shall revisit!

AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!

Linda, I can't put the two side by side (well, I could, but that would take a long time). But flipping back and forth between the RAW file and the jpg, I see little difference. One of the reasons I shoot both RAW and JPG is because the JPG is so frequently correct (depending on how I have the camera set to process jpgs). The RAW does give me more data, so I find myself trying to match - just as you're doing. Sometimes they just don't. Sometimes they really do.

Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

AzPicLady wrote:

Linda, I can't put the two side by side (well, I could, but that would take a long time). But flipping back and forth between the RAW file and the jpg, I see little difference. One of the reasons I shoot both RAW and JPG is because the JPG is so frequently correct (depending on how I have the camera set to process jpgs). The RAW does give me more data, so I find myself trying to match - just as you're doing. Sometimes they just don't. Sometimes they really do.

Thanks so much for your comments, Kathy. I think it has been less than a year since I went to raw-only. For various reasons I started out with raw+jpg on my Canon Rebel T3i and continued when I switched to Panasonic and Olympus M4/3's.

I've decided to use raw+jpg on this compact camera, which doesn't get a lot of use anyway. It will be interesting to note when/if there are major differences in color.

Ourspolair

Hi there Linda.
I opened your raw file in Adobe Camera Raw. Selected the Camera Natural profile and came quite close. Since processing a raw file, I added a small amount of contrast and sharpening before bringing it into Photoshop CC where I saved the image as a jpg.
When comparing the two images (your jpg and the GL jpg), I see no significant difference between the two versions on my 4k calibrated 27-inch monitor.
Please let me know if you do.
George

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Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington

Ourspolair wrote:

Hi there Linda.
I opened your raw file in Adobe Camera Raw. Selected the Camera Natural profile and came quite close. Since processing a raw file, I added a small amount of contrast and sharpening before bringing it into Photoshop CC where I saved the image as a jpg.
When comparing the two images (your jpg and the GL jpg), I see no significant difference between the two versions on my 4k calibrated 27-inch monitor.
Please let me know if you do.
George

They look amazingly similar, George. Thank you so much!

As soon as my napping dog vacates my lap, I shall look in my version of ACR (in PS Elements). I'm pretty sure I have a camera profile tab, but have never explored it.

Re typo of my name, on UHH you have an hour to edit any comments you make, add/remove photos, change title of your thread etc. In the meantime I fixed "Lina" (and deleted your apology entry

) - though I've been called much worse

I appreciate your time and interest!