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Aug 14, 2020 15:34:46   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JamesCurran wrote:
And I see you still don't understand the difference between a monarchy and a democaracy.

To put it in terms simple enough for you to understand: A society is a group of people who work together and pool their resources, to do collectively what they cannot do individually. The government is the people they hire to manage the grubby details of doing that collective work while the rest of them get on with their lives.

A democracy is two wolves and a sheep v****g on who’s for dinner.

Interesting that your analogy of a democracy was not a democracy but a well ran republic.

The US is not a democracy, never was a democracy and hopefully never will be a democracy.

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Aug 14, 2020 15:35:48   #
usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl
 
DaveO wrote:
Sorry, but normal decorum is to prove or source your allegation. LWW is the first to whine for proof and full well knows that he is expected to be able to substantiate his statement. Frankly, I fully expect that he will do so.


And I fully expected that would be your response have a great day

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Aug 14, 2020 15:38:10   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
usnpilot wrote:
And I fully expected that would be your response have a great day


As an Attic fan I'm sure you have seen that my response is the preferred one...not my idea, but think about it. You should be able to back up your statement.

BTW, I find it difficult to believe that you expected my last sentence in the reply you're referencing.

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Aug 14, 2020 19:05:23   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
JamesCurran wrote:
The state *IS* the community. Conservative are so self-centered can't understand that. That's why they expect great praise for doing basic human acts.

It's actually the corporate way to take three bushels of aid to deliver one bushel to the needy and keep the rest.


OMG you and that idea are so completely full of crap. How much better for each person to earn their own bushel of aid rather than have anyone give it to them. I am not a s***e. Why should I work so that my pay goes to someone else too lazy to work? Hell, for that matter, WAKE UP, why should you or anyone. There are jobs out there for those who want to get educated and then find jobs. You Liberals putting up with a bunch of freeloaders is great right up until you force me into your dumb ass schemes. You want to feed a bunch of lazy freeloaders and i*****l a***ns because you feel good about yourself then knock yourself out. But do not include me or mine.

Dennis

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Aug 14, 2020 19:10:32   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
LWW wrote:
Interesting that your analogy of a democracy was not a democracy but a well ran republic.


My example was neither a democracy nor republic. It was an description of a "society".

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Aug 14, 2020 19:30:07   #
Tex-s
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Justices are accountable. They are appointed by the executive but approved by the legislature. Their actions can be overridden by Constitutional amendment (or often, by more specific laws). They can be impeached by the legislature.


The trouble is that there will likely never be a sufficient majority in the Senate to actually remove a judge. Therefore, the Justices are effectively not accountable to the Congress. The only true accountability is when liberal appointees are required to pledge allegiance to Roe.

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Aug 14, 2020 19:34:01   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Tex-s wrote:
The only true accountability is when liberal appointees are required to pledge allegiance to Roe.


Actually, ALL justices are expected to pledge allegiance to Roe, as it is the law of the land.

Although, to be appointed by a conservative, they are required to condemn it.

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Aug 14, 2020 20:03:55   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JamesCurran wrote:
My example was neither a democracy nor republic. It was an description of a "society".


A society does not need a gubmint to legislate ‘mandatory compassion’ from society.

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Aug 14, 2020 20:04:41   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Actually, ALL justices are expected to pledge allegiance to Roe, as it is the law of the land.

Although, to be appointed by a conservative, they are required to condemn it.


So you support the SCOTUS decision on Dred Scott?

If you would read books ... other than Marx ... you would realize the court reverses itself fairly often.

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Aug 14, 2020 20:35:24   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
LWW wrote:
So you support the SCOTUS decision on Dred Scott?

If you would read books ... other than Marx ... you would realize the court reverses itself fairly often.


The Dred Scott decision was overturned (well, actually, rendered moot), by the 13th Amendment, which, if you actually understood the law, was the only way it could have been.

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Aug 14, 2020 21:46:47   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
Tex-s wrote:
You have actually illustrated what I believe the SCOTUS should/should not have the power do. 'Interpretation' should NOT occur. If and when cases arise that requite massive interpretation and asinine, back breaking, verbal gymnastics like 'penumbras' and 'emanations' of expressed rights or protections , the SCOTUS should be limited to saying "this law is inadequate and must be rewritten or amended to address this new concern" or "this issue is not covered in the test of the Constitution". The SCOTUS should NOT have the power to effectively enact laws. Then, the Congress would be forced to do their jobs and address failures of current law or to amend the text of the Constitution (pending ratification) to address issues that actually demand action AND have widespread support.

9 Political activist appointees, accountable to NO ONE, should not have the power to override the founding document of our union or to bypass the elected representatives of the people. The people, clearly named as the masters of government within the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, not the s***es of government as it presently stands.
You have actually illustrated what I believe the S... (show quote)


Amen!

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Aug 14, 2020 21:53:55   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JamesCurran wrote:
The Dred Scott decision was overturned (well, actually, rendered moot), by the 13th Amendment, which, if you actually understood the law, was the only way it could have been.


The SCOTUS has overturned poor rulings many times.

Two hundred and thirty six times actually, despite your claim it is impossible to do.

Now, you agree with the Dred Scott decision or not?

https://qz.com/1326096/despite-its-pending-hard-right-turn-the-supreme-court-is-unlikely-to-overturn-roe-vs-wade/

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Aug 14, 2020 22:07:13   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
LWW wrote:
The SCOTUS has overturned poor rulings many times.

Two hundred and thirty six times actually, despite your claim it is impossible to do.


SCOTUS does not directly reverse it's past decision. They will sometimes offer a new, and wildly different decsion on a new case with only a slightly different situation from the past case.

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Now, you agree with the Dred Scott decision or not?


No, of course not.

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Aug 15, 2020 04:43:40   #
lenben Loc: Seattle
 
Seriously folks: Trump for his own selfish reasons (re e******n) is now trying to destroy the US Postal system. This is anti-Constitutional and a serious slap to the American public. Only the US Congress can stop this. Have you noticed your mail is now less voluminous; checks are delayed, bills are delayed, delivery is late. Mail boxes are being locked down and removed and sorting machines are being deactivated. This is outrageous. I would love for the US Congress to develop a spine and stop this. I know there are a bunch of Trump supporters on this blog - how do you feel about this development which is against US Citizens and threatens to destroy a system which has 90% approval of the American public.

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Aug 15, 2020 05:04:31   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
JamesCurran wrote:
No, of course not.


Yet you believe the court's decision must be correct?

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