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Aug 6, 2020 07:00:07   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
SORRY , but Second Amendment or no Second Amendment.... Some people just shouldn't be allowed to have guns.

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Aug 6, 2020 12:43:38   #
Stardust Loc: Central Illinois
 
As I often do I took another last look at your photos and my same thoughts came to mind. Photography-wise they are well done and original in their concept, as your work usually is. In my humble opinion the responses received is due more with the forum they are placed - the nudity adds little or nothing to the message of the photos.

Because we know the model was law enforcement, in another forum they would be very thought provoking, maybe the first set about the myth of police shooting so many unarmed "innocent" criminals and the second set that police are the most at-risk group for committing suicide in the country. In a different setting these would trigger interesting discussion. Anyway, my 2-cents.

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Aug 6, 2020 14:18:52   #
Tommy II Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Get some help.

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Aug 7, 2020 12:49:55   #
twr25 Loc: New Jersey
 
I hope that it was a plastic gun ... real guns are not toys or props!

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Aug 7, 2020 23:39:14   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
Boo guns (not toys). Yay ropes (are toys)!! :-)

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Aug 8, 2020 11:29:23   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
I like the work but I don’t particularly like the subject matter. But then that very fact means it is good art as it has evoked emotion. Not only from me.

I’m glad you posted it.

I’m really really tired of people wanting to censor anything that makes them “uncomfortable”.

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Aug 8, 2020 11:32:36   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Stardust wrote:
As I often do I took another last look at your photos and my same thoughts came to mind. Photography-wise they are well done and original in their concept, as your work usually is. In my humble opinion the responses received is due more with the forum they are placed - the nudity adds little or nothing to the message of the photos.

Because we know the model was law enforcement, in another forum they would be very thought provoking, maybe the first set about the myth of police shooting so many unarmed "innocent" criminals and the second set that police are the most at-risk group for committing suicide in the country. In a different setting these would trigger interesting discussion. Anyway, my 2-cents.
As I often do I took another last look at your pho... (show quote)


I did not get that it was law enforcement. Indeed when viewing with that perspective, that does change how the images are experienced. I beg to differ with you about the nudity adding little or nothing. IMHO, it is important.

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Aug 8, 2020 11:38:15   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
mjc925 wrote:
A few more from a shoot with this great lady. A little voice in my head gave me pause posting these, but not exactly sure why I would feel that hesitation, so here are two more from that day.


One technical “nit”, the hammer on the pistol should be cocked.

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Aug 9, 2020 09:47:04   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
You should have gone with the voice in your head. I like the technique, the subject matter is questionable.
--Bob
mjc925 wrote:
A few more from a shoot with this great lady. A little voice in my head gave me pause posting these, but not exactly sure why I would feel that hesitation, so here are two more from that day.

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Aug 10, 2020 02:56:37   #
Chuck B
 
No hesitation. The silhouettes are fine, but not for everyone.

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Aug 11, 2020 00:31:57   #
mjc925 Loc: SF Bay Area
 
Interesting replies, which I suppose was the point of the post. It is a post that is supposed to create some feeling where none had been before, some thought where none had been before as clearly it wasn't meant to be another post meant to titillate or arouse or show off brilliant photographic skills. One path seems to favor not creating that thought/feeling, the other seem to favor the path of realizing it already exists in us lets think about it even if the thoughts take us to unpleasant places. Particularly interesting when in these images, the actual literal photos are primarily illusion, but the responses to the illusion is real. At the end of the day, they were pictures the model thought up and wanted and i gave them to her and she was pleased by them, so I will take that as a win.

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Aug 11, 2020 12:45:53   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
mjc925 wrote:
A few more from a shoot with this great lady. A little voice in my head gave me pause posting these, but not exactly sure why I would feel that hesitation, so here are two more from that day.


You and Timmers should get together! Same class (low) acts! IMHO....RJM

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Aug 11, 2020 12:48:50   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
mjc925 wrote:
Interesting replies, which I suppose was the point of the post. It is a post that is supposed to create some feeling where none had been before, some thought where none had been before as clearly it wasn't meant to be another post meant to titillate or arouse or show off brilliant photographic skills. One path seems to favor not creating that thought/feeling, the other seem to favor the path of realizing it already exists in us lets think about it even if the thoughts take us to unpleasant places. Particularly interesting when in these images, the actual literal photos are primarily illusion, but the responses to the illusion is real. At the end of the day, they were pictures the model thought up and wanted and i gave them to her and she was pleased by them, so I will take that as a win.
Interesting replies, which I suppose was the point... (show quote)


That’s exactly what we need, marginal photographers, taking us places that we wouldn’t “choose” to go, and don’t want to go. You and “Timmers” are a sexy COUPLE!!!.................................RJM

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Aug 11, 2020 19:56:47   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
digit-up wrote:
<snip>.... photographers, taking us places that we wouldn’t “choose” to go, and don’t want to go. <snip>....................................RJM


Yes art does that sometimes.

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Aug 11, 2020 20:22:25   #
mjc925 Loc: SF Bay Area
 
Wow Digit-up, one post/image that you don't feel comfortable with, for whatever reason, out of a multitude posted and you feel the need to post that drivel? In fact it was so upsetting to you that you had to say it twice? It is interesting that often with some level of people there always seems to be a connection between liking the art and therefore the artist or not liking the art and therefor the need to malign the artist's skills. Is it the mere fact of you liking an image the path one needs to take to rise above being a "marginal photographer? Is that my aspiration? I am so happy I don't see the world the way you do. But the range of responses on this board does run the gamut which does keep it interesting I suppose, or at least entertaining.

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