Nikon Z6 and Z7 (Page 10): There are settings in the Z6 menu to eliminate that "sleep mode" you are referring to. And I assume you are talking about the timers. After re-setting all of...

tomcat

Brucej67 wrote:

I like my D500 with FF lenses for wildlife photogr... (show quote)

There are settings in the Z6 menu to eliminate that "sleep mode" you are referring to. And I assume you are talking about the timers. After re-setting all of mine, I never have a problem with any kind of sleep mode. There is no "wake up" mode required for my Z6. It's ready to go all the time. I just hit the AF-on button, point, and we're ready to roll. There's nothing to wake up, so if you have this perceived problem, then change your timers in your menu. I'll let you hunt them down so you will know where they are and remember the location.

tomcat

User ID wrote:

A serious camera whose sleep timer cannot be defeated would only be built by designers so utterly stoooooopid that I would trust NOTHING else that they ever might ever build.

This is my reply to an earlier comment: "There are settings in the Z6 menu to eliminate that "sleep mode" you are referring to. And I assume you are talking about the timers. After re-setting all of mine, I never have a problem with any kind of sleep mode. There is no "wake up" mode required for my Z6. It's ready to go all the time. I just hit the AF-on button, point, and we're ready to roll. There's nothing to wake up, so if you have this perceived problem, then change your timers in your menu. I'll let you hunt them down so you will know where they are and remember the location."

It aggravates the p^&%^%ss out of me for folks to talk about something they know nothing about...not talking about you, but the earlier poster...

tomcat

Brucej67 wrote:

True, but I think for Nikon's entry into the mirror-less field this is how they overcame the problem of battery life. I believe in their next versions they will change this and make a menu item to override the wake up time.

This is my reply to an earlier comment: "There are settings in the Z6 menu to eliminate that "sleep mode" you are referring to. And I assume you are talking about the timers. After re-setting all of mine, I never have a problem with any kind of sleep mode. There is no "wake up" mode required for my Z6. It's ready to go all the time. I just hit the AF-on button, point, and we're ready to roll. There's nothing to wake up, so if you have this perceived problem, then change your timers in your menu. I'll let you hunt them down so you will know where they are and remember the location."

It aggravates the p^&%^%ss out of me for folks to talk about something they know nothing about...not talking about you, but the earlier poster...

tomcat

User ID wrote:

OK. Let’s say that one hour’s sleep delay is, in its effect, almost equal to actually disabling sleep. Can you set a full hour ?

This should be subject to FW upgrade as likewise their stoooopid approach to user choice of the APSC crop.

Nevertheless, just the very idea that any maker could write such nonsense into a camera that’s well above novice level is a definite warning to be really wary of their future offerings for a verrrry long time.

This is my reply to an earlier comment: "There are settings in the Z6 menu to eliminate that "sleep mode" you are referring to. And I assume you are talking about the timers. After re-setting all of mine, I never have a problem with any kind of sleep mode. There is no "wake up" mode required for my Z6. It's ready to go all the time. I just hit the AF-on button, point, and we're ready to roll. There's nothing to wake up, so if you have this perceived problem, then change your timers in your menu. I'll let you hunt them down so you will know where they are and remember the location."

It aggravates the p^&%^%ss out of me for folks to talk about something they know nothing about...not talking about you, but the earlier poster...

User ID

Bill_de wrote:

When you use terms like "most People" you are not referring to yourself. You just comment on what you assume most people think or do. With that in mind, reread your post that I originally replied to. Maybe you'll see what I mean. In the scheme of things none of us should be assuming what most people do.

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Assuming what other people think, or will likely do, is an essential life function. The very idea of not doing it is flatly out of the question. It’s not a skill or an art, it’s an actual hardwired function.

Acoarst it’s far from infallible, and the misstep is to ignore that problem and then express one’s own take as a generally viable fact.

User ID

Brucej67 wrote:

So what camera manufacturer do you support that is flawless?

Why would I provide that info to you who creates false, polarizing dichotomies ?

And who posted about the annoyance of the Z6 going to sleep during weddings, when it turns out that no such problem actually exists ? Hint: look at the space above your bathroom sink.

Rejecting further dealings with a company displaying serious stoopidity is toadally unrelated to seeking an actual flawless provider. If I did know of one I’d not be motivated to share it with you based on the nature of your question.

As to any determination of which provider is definitely least flawed, sharing that around here would be an insane example of pearls before swine.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

tomcat wrote:

There are settings in the Z6 menu to eliminate tha... (show quote)

Thank you, wish I knew that when I did the weddings, missed a lot of shots due to this. I purchased the vertical grip which allows for 2 batteries.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

User ID wrote:

Why should I provide that info to you who creates ... (show quote)

I did not mean any insult when I asked the question, you seem to hate Nikon (at least that is what it appears to me) and I was just wondering what you considered better and why. I can always learn from others, I am heavily invested in Nikon equipment and yes they often come out with problems on new cameras, but it would be to costly for me to switch at this time. I have been doing photography for 68 years and had many different brands of cameras, sold my Leica's, Mamyia's , Canon's, Pentax and Sony's and ended up with Nikon's. So please don't be insulted by my question, maybe I could have phrased it better.

tomcat

Brucej67 wrote:

Thank you, wish I knew that when I did the weddings, missed a lot of shots due to this. I purchased the vertical grip which allows for 2 batteries.

Not trying to be smart a$%$ss, so please buy the book on the Z6/Z7 from David Busch. He talks about these timers and you can also find them in the owner's manual. I would suggest that you thoroughly read his book and also the on-line book from Steve Perry. There are a lot of tips on autofocus and a lot of tips about the miscellaneous settings. I read David's book from cover to cover, learning how to set my Z6 for sports photography. After a week of trial and error, I have it set for volleyball and basketball sessions and it is the best Nikon I have used (including the vaunted D5) and just a smidgeon ahead of the D3s for indoor, low light photography. Exposures are spot-on, minimal noise, and fast AF and tracking.

User ID

tomcat wrote:

This is my reply to an earlier comment: "The... (show quote)

I actually knew better than to believe him anyway. I even have the David Busch Z6 book cuz thaz where the truth is ... not in UHH drivel and not in the flak press. (If I never buy a Z6, someone gets a deal on the book.)

I was trying to be both outraged and non-insulting at the same time. IOW I avoided saying to him “Idjit!! RTFM !! No serious camera has non-cancelable sleep mode ! Quit your whining !”

So ... I redirected the “stoopidity” label to the designers instead of the user. Turns out I’d as well just gone with my gut :-(

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Here’s what I cannot find in the Busch book: I can’t find a way to disable the automatic DX crop. I use Nikon’s 10-24 DX on Sony a7xxx bodies, down to about 14mm depending on aspect ratio, and I’d like to use it on a Z6. So I’m waiting and watching for FW updates (and acoarst for price decreases).

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

tomcat wrote:

Not trying to be smart a$%$ss, so please buy the b... (show quote)

I used to have both David Busch book and the owner manual on all my cameras, however in October of 2019 my back went out (no more pads in my spine they are all worn away) and the doctors told my family that I would not walk again and would be bed ridden. Consequently my children got rid of all my belongings (except for the cameras, lenses, tripods and flashes) and threw out around $30,000 worth of photography equipment valued used. Among these were all my books, invoices, user manuals and warranties. I have a pain level, but it is tolerable and am able to stand and walk using a walker and will be doing photography again, albeit at a slower pace.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

User ID wrote:

I actually knew better than to believe him anyway.... (show quote)

I assume you are talking about me, at-least Tomcat was willing to help and much appreciated. but you if you knew the answer are very condescending and no help at all, you acted like a troll rather than an authority. There are many things I don't know and at 85 many things I forgot, but being civil is not one of them.

tomcat

User ID wrote:

I actually knew better than to believe him anyway.... (show quote)

I bought the Nikkor Z 14-30mm f/4 S lens a few weeks ago and man is that thing sharp--all the way out to the edges and no vignetting. I got it for our upcoming USA cross-country tour. It complements the Z 24-70 f/4 and the Z 85mm S lenses that I have. Sometime in the near future I plan to get the Z 20mm f/1.8 lens for low light in museums, theme parks, etc

I am sold on the Nikon Z system, particularly because of the lenses. The Z/S lenses rival those of Sigma Art series for sharpness, not to mention the reduction in weight.

Most of my photography now is devoted to sports photography, where I need really fast lenses for the dim gyms. f/2.8 is not fast enough, so I use the 85mm f/1.8 above. I also shoot landscapes, birds at rest, and flowers, so I have little use for the 70-200mm Z series. I already have a 70-200mm AF-S and the 200-500mm AF-S for the FTZ when I need a long telephoto.

good talking' to ya

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

tomcat wrote:

I bought the Nikkor Z 14-30mm f/4 S lens a few wee... (show quote)

I agree with your assessment on the S lenses, they are sharp. I have the 14-30mm f4, 35mm, 24-70mm f2.8 and the 85mm f1.8. Contemplating going for the 70-200mm f2.8 with the two telly extenders. If I don't get the 70-200 I might go for the Z7.

tomcat

Brucej67 wrote:

I agree with your assessment on the S lenses, they are sharp. I have the 14-30mm f4, 35mm, 24-70mm f2.8 and the 85mm f1.8. Contemplating going for the 70-200mm f2.8 with the two telly extenders. If I don't get the 70-200 I might go for the Z7.

At the present, I don't plan to go for the Z7, even for my future landscape photography on vacations. The quality of images from the Z6 is adequate enough and very few of them will ever become wall portraits anyway. I'd rather spend the money on lenses.