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May 9, 2020 15:45:29   #
hrblaine
 
Yep, they look the same to me on the uncalibrated screen of my HP Pavilion. Maybe I'm too dumb to know what's what but I've never had a problem with an uncalibrated screen! (Of which I have several, HP and Dell for my laptops and Dell for my desktop. ) What I get from my Canon Pro 100 is pretty much what I saw on my uncalibrated Dell screen at least to my eye. Harry PS It seems to me that if you look for trouble, you'll probably find it. So I don't look. Of course once in a while it finds me whether I'm looking or not. :-)

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May 9, 2020 18:25:10   #
LoriH
 
robertjerl wrote:
Uh, here on my monitor they appear the same. Better check your monitor etc.
I calibrate mine every 4 weeks and have a sensor that checks the ambient light and makes adjustments every 30 minutes.


Hi Robert - what calibration software are you using? Thx in advance

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May 9, 2020 19:24:07   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
I was going to suggest that you do that. Good test.

The two look identical to me. That suggests that your monitor is the issue. Do they both look bad to you when you look at them here on your monitor?

Mike

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May 9, 2020 22:06:55   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Both of these appear virtually the same.
--Bob
crooner wrote:
This is the photo from the desktop computer.

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May 9, 2020 22:12:45   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
I'm working on monitor calibration. I have some updates to install first. Thanks to all for your help. I'll update.

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May 9, 2020 22:30:04   #
GLSmith Loc: Tampa, Fl
 
Step 1...before doing any color adjusting (raw/jpeg), download computer monitor calibration tool....calibrate your monitors, then start adjusting color

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May 10, 2020 00:43:55   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
crooner wrote:
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. I have both the latest version of Canon Digital Photo Professional editing software and an older version of DPP. I use a Canon Power Shot SX50 HS and a Samsung Galaxy S10 to take photos. Until the Corona downtime I haven't had as much time to spend on photography as I would have liked. I notice that when I transfer pictures to the computer from either the Canon or the Samsung they look "muddy". The pictures look sharper in the devices than on the computer. When I compare the histogram graph on the Canon camera to the histogram graph on the DPP software they are slightly different. The blacks are blacker the details of objects are sharper. I've tried using the software to sharpen, brighten, contrast, saturate and other operations that don't produce a picture that compares to the quality in the device . Very disappointing! Any thoughts or suggestions.
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. ... (show quote)


The in-camera produced JPEGs are fully processed, using the menu settings in the camera. Those same menu settings are stored in the EXIF file embedded in the raw and JPEG files, along with a JPEG preview or three in the raw data file.

DPP can use the EXIF file to process the raw data on your computer exactly the same way as it was processed in camera. But you have to configure that!

DPP only works properly if you fully configure it AND your computer to take advantage of ICC color management profiles. You need a calibrated and profiled monitor capable of displaying at least the full sRGB color gamut.

Using post-processing software without proper ICC color management settings is like driving while blind.

Information regarding how to do that properly is available from the Datacolor and X-Rite web sites. Google those brands...

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May 10, 2020 00:45:57   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
Thanks for the information. On tomorrow's to do list.

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May 10, 2020 15:23:17   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
I found that even without monitor calibration tools, you can adjust your monitor to look like either the camera screen or the printed photo (assuming they look different).

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May 10, 2020 15:23:53   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
I've now done basic monitor calibration and it has helped. I'll move on to more configuration procedures in the next few days. Thanks again for the help.

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