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May 8, 2020 19:16:19   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. I have both the latest version of Canon Digital Photo Professional editing software and an older version of DPP. I use a Canon Power Shot SX50 HS and a Samsung Galaxy S10 to take photos. Until the Corona downtime I haven't had as much time to spend on photography as I would have liked. I notice that when I transfer pictures to the computer from either the Canon or the Samsung they look "muddy". The pictures look sharper in the devices than on the computer. When I compare the histogram graph on the Canon camera to the histogram graph on the DPP software they are slightly different. The blacks are blacker the details of objects are sharper. I've tried using the software to sharpen, brighten, contrast, saturate and other operations that don't produce a picture that compares to the quality in the device . Very disappointing! Any thoughts or suggestions.

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May 8, 2020 19:20:24   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
crooner wrote:
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. I have both the latest version of Canon Digital Photo Professional editing software and an older version of DPP. I use a Canon Power Shot SX50 HS and a Samsung Galaxy S10 to take photos. Until the Corona downtime I haven't had as much time to spend on photography as I would have liked. I notice that when I transfer pictures to the computer from either the Canon or the Samsung they look "muddy". The pictures look sharper in the devices than on the computer. When I compare the histogram graph on the Canon camera to the histogram graph on the DPP software they are slightly different. The blacks are blacker the details of objects are sharper. I've tried using the software to sharpen, brighten, contrast, saturate and other operations that don't produce a picture that compares to the quality in the device . Very disappointing! Any thoughts or suggestions.
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. ... (show quote)


Are you shooting in RAW or JPEG? RAW always looks that way until processed. But no matter if you are doing RAW or JPEG the image on the camera's screen is a processed JPEG with whatever JPEG setting your camera has.

If you want the image to be the same then you need to set the computer to the same settings as your camera. And having your monitor calibrated helps a lot also.

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May 8, 2020 19:23:05   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
robertjerl wrote:
Are you shooting in RAW or JPEG? RAW always looks that way until processed. But no matter if you are doing RAW or JPEG the image on the camera's screen is a processed JPEG with whatever JPEG setting your camera has.

If you want the image to be the same then you need to set the computer to the same settings as your camera. And having your monitor calibrated helps a lot also.


Canon raw files viewed in Canon DPP shouldn't appear muddy, and definitely not worse than a JPEG from the same shot. DPP displays images with the camera setting applied as the default.

Mike

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May 8, 2020 19:55:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
If you have jpg's, or raw files that don't exceed 20 megabytes, please post a photo or two so we can see what you see. Before you click "add attachment," check the box marked store original. If you post a raw, there will be no thumbnail view, just the download link.

As for sharpness, the smaller the view (camera LCD vs. large computer screen), the more clarity they will appear to have.

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May 9, 2020 01:34:18   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
If you have jpg's, or raw files that don't exceed 20 megabytes, please post a photo or two so we can see what you see. Before you click "add attachment," check the box marked store original. If you post a raw, there will be no thumbnail view, just the download link.

As for sharpness, the smaller the view (camera LCD vs. large computer screen), the more clarity they will appear to have.

Correct, and in addition we have no information on the quality or resolution of the computer monitor being used.

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May 9, 2020 06:29:06   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
crooner wrote:
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. I have both the latest version of Canon Digital Photo Professional editing software and an older version of DPP. I use a Canon Power Shot SX50 HS and a Samsung Galaxy S10 to take photos. Until the Corona downtime I haven't had as much time to spend on photography as I would have liked. I notice that when I transfer pictures to the computer from either the Canon or the Samsung they look "muddy". The pictures look sharper in the devices than on the computer. When I compare the histogram graph on the Canon camera to the histogram graph on the DPP software they are slightly different. The blacks are blacker the details of objects are sharper. I've tried using the software to sharpen, brighten, contrast, saturate and other operations that don't produce a picture that compares to the quality in the device . Very disappointing! Any thoughts or suggestions.
I have an HP desktop computer running Windows 10. ... (show quote)

Camera and phone have a pimped display with unnatural contrast and color saturation. And besides that, I'm guessing your computer display isn't the best.

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May 9, 2020 07:33:02   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Is your computer display calibrated?

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May 9, 2020 09:34:25   #
Don, the 2nd son Loc: Crowded Florida
 
mborn wrote:
Is your computer display calibrated?


1st thing that came to my mind. Basic setup instructions come with the monitors I have used. Often has been sufficient without resorting to $$$ third party calibration software.

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May 9, 2020 10:21:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
For one thing, the device has a smaller screen, and that helps. There are lots of choices for processing, and infinite variations in processing itself.

Affinity
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/software-review-affinity-photo-1-5-2
http://www.shutterbug.com/content/affinity-photo-software-review-has-photoshop-met-its-match#d1c5lY5EQ03QoLjh.97
http://www.diyphotography.net/affinity-photo-can-give-adobe-run-money/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/affinity-photo-1.5,review-4257.html

Others
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-lightroom-alternatives
http://digital-photography-school.com/a-beginners-guide-to-choosing-the-right-post-production-software/
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/photo-editing
https://www.reviews.com/photo-editing-software/
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-photo-editing-software,review-1972.html
http://www.redmondpie.com/best-adobe-photoshop-alternatives-for-windows-and-mac-list Affinity
http://www.shutterbug.com/content/affinity-photo-software-review-has-photoshop-met-its-match#d1c5lY5EQ03QoLjh.97
http://www.diyphotography.net/affinity-photo-can-give-adobe-run-money/
https://photographypro.com/photo-editing/

Raw -
http://rawtherapee.com/
https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5294-adobe-camera-raw.html
https://www.instructables.com/id/A-Complete-Beginners-Guide-to-Raw-Files-And-Raw-Pr/
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-process-and-edit-raw-files/

Free Processing -
https://www.darktable.org/
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59324818
https://www.lightstalking.com/how-to-edit-rawtherapee/
https://www.lightstalking.com/free-photography-software/
http://www.techradar.com/news/the-best-free-photo-editor
http://fieldguide.gizmodo.com/the-best-photoshop-alternatives-that-are-totally-free-5974500
http://lightzoneproject.org/

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May 9, 2020 11:30:19   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
I'm going to spend some time with screen calibration. However, I like to photograph flowers and one of my favorite people to follow on UHH is Ed Brown. Just now I have his flickr site up and the photos posted there look like what I'm seeing on my camera or phone screen and definitely better than the downloads to DPP so I'm wondering if screen calibration is the issue.

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May 9, 2020 14:15:03   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
I'm sending this directly from my phone and in a few minutes I'll send a second copy of the same photo as it is in DPP. I hope the difference will be apparent. Bottom line, I like the photo as it appears on the phone screen but not in DPP.


(Download)

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May 9, 2020 14:15:10   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
This is the photo from the desktop computer.


(Download)

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May 9, 2020 14:37:25   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Uh, here on my monitor they appear the same. Better check your monitor etc.
I calibrate mine every 4 weeks and have a sensor that checks the ambient light and makes adjustments every 30 minutes.

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May 9, 2020 14:47:50   #
crooner Loc: Portland, OR
 
Thanks for the reply . I'll spend some time on calibration.

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May 9, 2020 15:38:20   #
PHRubin Loc: Nashville TN USA
 
robertjerl wrote:
Uh, here on my monitor they appear the same. Better check your monitor etc.
I calibrate mine every 4 weeks and have a sensor that checks the ambient light and makes adjustments every 30 minutes.


Appear the same here too.

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