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May 8, 2020 13:32:25   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
We each have three tools at our disposal: desire, effort and a camera. Shouldn't you buy a Canon?

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May 8, 2020 13:50:53   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
Najataagihe

I appreciate your answer. My layoff was like yours. Digital is definitely the way to go, although I miss all the great smells from developer, etc. (lol)

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May 8, 2020 13:54:13   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
GHC CANON
When I started way back when (with a Kodak rangefinder) Nikon was THE camera. When I decided to get back in (with a little bigger budget) I went with Nikon.

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May 8, 2020 14:07:29   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
John7199 wrote:
GHC CANON
When I started way back when (with a Kodak rangefinder) Nikon was THE camera. When I decided to get back in (with a little bigger budget) I went with Nikon.


A great reason!

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May 8, 2020 14:13:35   #
Najataagihe
 
John7199 wrote:
Najataagihe

I appreciate your answer. My layoff was like yours. Digital is definitely the way to go, although I miss all the great smells from developer, etc. (lol)

The only significant difference from Days of Long Ago is that we can now adjust ISO on the fly and not be tied to the speed of a film emulsion!

Two years, now, and it still amazes me.


The big advantage of high ISOs is that you don't need huge, heavy, fast lenses to get the shot in low light or at high shutter speed.

Whatever lens you are using effectively gains four stops or better with no noticeable degradation.


And, with automatic ISO, all you have to do is shoot and it will adjust to crappy light conditions.

D5600s do a really good job with this.

You are going to LOVE that camera!


As a side effect, small flashes do what potato-mashers used to do.

I would recommend you buy a Nikon SB400 as soon as you can.

They are only available used (@ $120), but they are the best utility flash you can get for a Nikon.


Use it in place of the built-in and it will save your camera batteries while giving you much faster recycle times and it bounces!

I just leave mine on, all the time, especially outside and let it "follow its nose".

That saves me a LOT of time and effort getting the shot I want and it is absolutely fantastic for fill flash on people shots.


The automation on modern DSLRs, no matter what brand, is nothing short of miraculous to old film types like us.


Have fun with your rig!

Holler, if we can help.





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May 8, 2020 14:18:56   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
We each have three tools at our disposal: desire, effort and a camera. Shouldn't you buy a Canon?


No!

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May 8, 2020 14:42:03   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
John7199 wrote:
I understand my Nikon D5600 is not full frame. What exactly does that mean? Will what I see in the viewfinder be in the picture? will it be bigger, smaller? I guess it has effect on the lens as well. So what does a 200 - 400 zoom lens show as.
Keep in mind that you are talking to a digital newbie, please don't throw around terms that "I should know".
Thanks Hoggers


If you have never used 35mm film cameras or "full frame" digital cameras.... it doesn't matter at all.

You're D5600 can use most DX lenses and most FX lenses (full frame design)

DX lenses are designed specifically for crop sensor cameras. FX lenses are designed to accommodate full frame cameras. They need to produce a larger image circle in order to fully cover the larger image sensor of the camera.... which usually makes for bigger, heavier and more expensive lenses.

Focal length is focal length... there's no difference. A 50mm lens can be DX or FX (most actually are FX). But the point is that 24mm is still 24mm, 50mm is still 50mm, 85mm is still 85mm, etc. regardless of format.

How any given focal length "performs" on a camera changes a little. For example, on your D5600...

10mm to 15mm is an "ultrawide" lens
16mm to 22mm is "wide angle"
24mm to 30mm is moderate wide to slightly wide
32 to 35mm is "normal" or "standard" lens, not wide nor telephoto
40mm to 60mm is "short telephoto"
70mm to 135mm is "moderate telephoto"
150mm to 300mm is telephoto
upwards of 300mm is "super telephoto"

The same focal lengths on a full frame camera would "act differently"... for example, a standard or normal lens is approx. 50mm.

But, who cares! If you don't have preconceived notions about how a focal length might work, it doesn't really matter. Just buy lenses that will serve the purpose you want... wide, normal or telephoto... on your D5600. It really doesn't matter how those lenses might work (if at all) on a D750 or D5.

You actually need to be more concerned about some other things.... There are Nikon lens compatibility charts at the Nikon website and at Nikonians.org, as well as extensive information about the various Nikon lens designations, what they mean and various possible "issues" at Ken Rockwell's website. I suggest you start to get familiar with those. For example, your D5600 isn't able to autofocus all lenses made to fit Nikon F-mount cameras. The current Micro Nikror AF 200mm f/4D and Tokina AT-X and ATXi 100mm Macro lenses are twp examples that lack any sort of focusing motor built into the lens itself. Instead, to autofocus they rely upon a motor in the camera body.... which only Nikon D7000-series and higher models have. Therefore, those lenses would be manual focus only on your D5600. There may be some other compatibility issues, especially with older lenses. Those should be a greater concern to you than focal length or whether the lens is DX or FX design (since, in that respect, you camera can use both).

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May 8, 2020 14:49:55   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
I and many others on this forum have experience with both DX and FF formats and I have a D5300 which is very similar to your D5600. I have experience with a wide variety of Nikon lens and would be glad to answer any specific questions either here on the forum or by private message. I like the swivel screen and just ordered a D5600 to add another versatile crop camera to my bag.

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May 8, 2020 18:53:03   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Every successful photographer is driven by an inner voice telling them Canon is the better camera.


I’ve always suspected you were a guy that hears voices. 😜🤪

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May 8, 2020 18:59:39   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
amfoto1 wrote:
If you have never used 35mm film cameras or "full frame" digital cameras.... it doesn't matter at all.

You're D5600 can use most DX lenses and most FX lenses (full frame design)

DX lenses are designed specifically for crop sensor cameras. FX lenses are designed to accommodate full frame cameras. They need to produce a larger image circle in order to fully cover the larger image sensor of the camera.... which usually makes for bigger, heavier and more expensive lenses.

Focal length is focal length... there's no difference. A 50mm lens can be DX or FX (most actually are FX). But the point is that 24mm is still 24mm, 50mm is still 50mm, 85mm is still 85mm, etc. regardless of format.

How any given focal length "performs" on a camera changes a little. For example, on your D5600...

10mm to 15mm is an "ultrawide" lens
16mm to 22mm is "wide angle"
24mm to 30mm is moderate wide to slightly wide
32 to 35mm is "normal" or "standard" lens, not wide nor telephoto
40mm to 60mm is "short telephoto"
70mm to 135mm is "moderate telephoto"
150mm to 300mm is telephoto
upwards of 300mm is "super telephoto"

The same focal lengths on a full frame camera would "act differently"... for example, a standard or normal lens is approx. 50mm.

But, who cares! If you don't have preconceived notions about how a focal length might work, it doesn't really matter. Just buy lenses that will serve the purpose you want... wide, normal or telephoto... on your D5600. It really doesn't matter how those lenses might work (if at all) on a D750 or D5.

You actually need to be more concerned about some other things.... There are Nikon lens compatibility charts at the Nikon website and at Nikonians.org, as well as extensive information about the various Nikon lens designations, what they mean and various possible "issues" at Ken Rockwell's website. I suggest you start to get familiar with those. For example, your D5600 isn't able to autofocus all lenses made to fit Nikon F-mount cameras. The current Micro Nikror AF 200mm f/4D and Tokina AT-X and ATXi 100mm Macro lenses are twp examples that lack any sort of focusing motor built into the lens itself. Instead, to autofocus they rely upon a motor in the camera body.... which only Nikon D7000-series and higher models have. Therefore, those lenses would be manual focus only on your D5600. There may be some other compatibility issues, especially with older lenses. Those should be a greater concern to you than focal length or whether the lens is DX or FX design (since, in that respect, you camera can use both).
If you have never used 35mm film cameras or "... (show quote)


Nikon doesn’t make a 50mm DX lens. I think the only prime DX is the 35mm.

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May 8, 2020 19:21:35   #
Najataagihe
 
AX, BX, CX, DX, EX, FX, GX, etc.

Who cares?

Does it fit the mount and does it frame the shot?

EVERYTHING else is just piffle!

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May 8, 2020 19:49:27   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Najataagihe wrote:
AX, BX, CX, DX, EX, FX, GX, etc.

Who cares?

Does it fit the mount and does it frame the shot?

EVERYTHING else is just piffle!


Pretty important to know when you’re choosing lenses.

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May 8, 2020 21:40:30   #
Najataagihe
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Pretty important to know when you’re choosing lenses.

On a DX camera, it doesn't matter what *X it is and we are talking about a DX camera.


Does it fit the mount?

Any F-mount lens since 1977 will attach, but it might not fit.

A lens with a mechanically-driven focus won't fit a D5600, even though you can physically attach it.


Does it frame the shot?

As long as the lens illuminates the entire sensor and the focal length of the lens is appropriate for what you want, yes.



So:

Does it fit the mount?

Does it frame the shot?

If the answer to both question is "Yes", you are good to go.



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May 8, 2020 22:59:21   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Najataagihe wrote:
On a DX camera, it doesn't matter what *X it is and we are talking about a DX camera.


Does it fit the mount?

Any F-mount lens since 1977 will attach, but it might not fit.

A lens with a mechanically-driven focus won't fit a D5600, even though you can physically attach it.


Does it frame the shot?

As long as the lens illuminates the entire sensor and the focal length of the lens is appropriate for what you want, yes.



So:

Does it fit the mount?

Does it frame the shot?

If the answer to both question is "Yes", you are good to go.


On a DX camera, it doesn't matter what *X it is an... (show quote)


Which totally ignored my point. Your statement that I referenced in no way mentions that it doesn’t matter for just a DX camera.

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May 9, 2020 10:55:56   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Every successful photographer is driven by an inner voice telling them Canon is the better camera.


Must be hard-off-hearing. Was sure that voice said "Nikon".

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