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May 6, 2020 22:47:24   #
John7199 Loc: Eastern Mass.
 
I understand my Nikon D5600 is not full frame. What exactly does that mean? Will what I see in the viewfinder be in the picture? will it be bigger, smaller? I guess it has effect on the lens as well. So what does a 200 - 400 zoom lens show as.
Keep in mind that you are talking to a digital newbie, please don't throw around terms that "I should know".
Thanks Hoggers

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May 6, 2020 22:50:45   #
bleirer
 
It refers to the sensor size. Full frame is the term used when the sensor is the same size as 35mm film was. So it became a standard of comparison. I believe 24x36 mm. Crop sensor means a smaller sensor, because compared to the size of full frame.its like cropping the image.

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camera-sensor-size.htm

https://photographylife.com/what-is-crop-factor

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May 6, 2020 23:11:37   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
bleirer wrote:
It refers to the sensor size. Full frame is the term used when the sensor is the same size as 35mm film was. So it became a standard of comparison. I believe 24x36 mm. Crop sensor means a smaller sensor, because compared to the size of full frame.its like cropping the image.

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/digital-camera-sensor-size.htm


And your Nikon is also known as APS-C format. As an example of view for lenses. If you put a full frame 50mm lense on your Nikon it would be a view equivelant to a 75mm lens on a Full Frame Camera. Another way to look at it is take any full frame lens focal length and multiple it by 1.5 to get its equivalent view. Crop sensors vary in size from micro to 3/4, to 1inch to APS-c and everything in-between. Many crop sensors rival the image quality of full frame. Advantage of crop sensor, smaller, lighter, and less cost. Disadvantage, just image quality. I may have left some things out but these are the major differences. Enjoy shooting photos.

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May 6, 2020 23:28:40   #
smussler Loc: Land O Lakes, FL - Formerly Miller Place, NY
 
The D5600 viewfinder shows about 95% of the final image. Manual for D5600 available on Nikon USA site. Can be put on your phone for easy reference.

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May 7, 2020 00:40:04   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?

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May 7, 2020 01:00:31   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?


The sensor does not know that it is throwing away that much image. If you ever shot with a view camera you would be happy throwing away lots of the image circle. If a view camera did not have that overflow of image you would not be able to utilize all the swings, tilts and slides. Over kill does not hurt. Under kill gives you vignette.

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May 7, 2020 05:43:48   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?


Only if he uses FX lenses.

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May 7, 2020 05:55:30   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?


Get a Nikon instead of a Canon !

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May 7, 2020 06:35:07   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
Pablo8 wrote:
Get a Nikon instead of a Canon !


Actually, Paul does very well with a Canon. I just don't know how he does it.

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May 7, 2020 07:05:54   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
John7199 wrote:
I understand my Nikon D5600 is not full frame. What exactly does that mean? Will what I see in the viewfinder be in the picture? will it be bigger, smaller? I guess it has effect on the lens as well. So what does a 200 - 400 zoom lens show as.
Keep in mind that you are talking to a digital newbie, please don't throw around terms that "I should know".
Thanks Hoggers


The sensor on the D5600 is a CROPPED SENSOR, it is not as big a sensor as a sensor in a full frame camera. So, if you put a lens, lets say a 200-400 mm lens on a full frame camera, that 200-400 mm lens STAYS a 200-400 mm lens. SO FAR SO GOOD?
Now, if you put that FX(full frame lens) on a cropped sensor camera the lens covers more area than the smaller cropped sensor, so, only the middle of the lens covers the smaller sensor (so far so good?) so only the middle part of the FX lens is being used on the cropped (DX sensor).
So we have now a thing called angle of view, the angle of view has changed cause your only using the middle part of the lens to cover the smaller cropped sensor. So the angle of view gets multiplied by a factor of 1.5. So if you multiply the 200-400 by 1.5 you get 300-600.
So, a Nikon FX lens (full frame lens) becomes LIKE a 300-600 when viewing through the view finder.
At the bottom of the attached web site shows the different sizes of sensors for digital camera's.
https://www.adorama.com/alc/faq-what-are-the-different-camera-sensor-sizes

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May 7, 2020 07:23:42   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
The surest way to corrupt a novice is to explain the importance of full-frame sensors.

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May 7, 2020 07:46:52   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob

CHG_CANON wrote:
If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?

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May 7, 2020 07:57:13   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The surest way to corrupt a novice is to explain the importance of full-frame sensors.


The surest way to corrupt a novice is to post nonsensical posts.

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May 7, 2020 08:38:40   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
The surest way to corrupt a novice is to explain the importance of full-frame sensors.


The greatest advantage of the full frame camera is that a novice doesn't have to learn about the crop factor.

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May 7, 2020 08:52:31   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"Disadvantage, just image quality."

Since when, using the same lens, the quality of an image made with an APS sensor is inferior to that of a "full frame" camera? Now, talking about "full frame" is full frame to be using the whole size of the sensor? If so then any lens for an APS camera makes it a full frame because the whole sensor is used. Is micro fourth third full sensor? Well, shoot at a ratio of 4:3 and the whole sensor is in use. If full frame is called a sensor with a size of 35x24 or the size of a film negative then what is a medium format sensor called? Too many variables as there are sensors I guess.

"If your sensor throws away 50% of the frame, how will you ever achieve your potential as a photographer?"

Sorry Paul and Bob but I wish I could understand this better. When I use a lens made for an APS sensor with my D7000 "cropped" camera, am I throwing away 50% of the capacity of the sensor? By the same token, when I use my Olympus micro fourth third at a 4:3 ratio is not the whole sensor used? I do not believe I am throwing away anything. If I am using a 645 film camera against a 6x6 camera am I throwing something out?

I see so many discussions on the merits of the so called full frame cameras when it is very possible to achieve the same results using an APS sensor at a much lower price.

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