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Mar 26, 2020 10:10:44   #
cdayton
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It isn't easy buying a car from home. My son has been trying to buy a new Fit after a deer destroyed his 2019. There is one at a dealer just 17 miles away, but he needs a loan from the bank and insurance cards. Bank access is limited to the drive-up teller, the car dealer's showroom is closed, DMV is closed, and the insurance company is working with limited staff. He has all the info for the car, including VIN, but getting the insurance cards is now the hold-up. The insurance company will email them to those involved, but that's taking time.

The dealer will bring the car to the house to complete the paperwork - outside the house - and they have a supply of new license plates, so the closed DMV isn't a problem. My son is working at Lowe's, which is considered an essential store. After all, people have to buy their plants, seeds, and gardening tools. Ridiculous! I'm driving him back and forth to work every day.

Studies have shown that people are not being good about staying at home. This is especially true in areas that don't have many reported cases. There are certainly thousands of carriers in those areas, but very few with symptoms, so people have a false sense of confidence. We're our own worst enemies.

Did you hear about the Coronavirus Party that a group of young people held in Kentucky? The only thing we have to fear is stupidity.
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My son manages a department at a Home Depot and says business is brisk - lots of people doing home projects during the lull.

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Mar 26, 2020 10:47:49   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
That's just about what a governor has been saying. Get the economy rolling again. We old folks can sacrifice ourselves to make life better for the younger generation. I don't recall which state is lucky enough to have him in office. I'll look.

EDIT: Here it is. Lieutenant governor of Texas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/24/viral-on-air-plea-captures-an-essential-truth-about-trump/


Yes, it is harsh but you must remember who watches Tucker Carlson. President Trump has already started saying things like "We can do two things at the same time" and FOX News is echoing that. His meaning was the country can both fight the virus and people can go back to work. The fallacy is that going back to work cuts down on fighting the virus. Cutting down on the virus fight will lead to its spread and a rise in deaths. When the numbers start to rise, the virus could start claiming younger people - perhaps the grandchildren the governor claims he trying to save. Let's get our priorities straight ... the peoples' health should come before the health of the economy. It's not a pleasant choice, I understand this, but historically, the economy has always come back. When people die, they remain dead.

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Mar 26, 2020 10:51:56   #
Dannj
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
The deer did not destroy your son's car. His car hit a deer because your son is too stupid to keep an eye on the sides of the road when driving at dusk. If one deer gallops across the road, there is likely another just behind it. Slow down at dusk and at night and be aware of wildlife crossing the road.


So you were in the car and saw what happened? Or maybe you’ve just been in the house to long. Calm down.

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Mar 26, 2020 10:59:57   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Yes, it is harsh but you must remember who watches Tucker Carlson. President Trump has already started saying things like "We can do two things at the same time" and FOX News is echoing that. His meaning was the country can both fight the virus and people can go back to work. The fallacy is that going back to work cuts down on fighting the virus. Cutting down on the virus fight will lead to its spread and a rise in deaths. When the numbers start to rise, the virus could start claiming younger people - perhaps the grandchildren the governor claims he trying to save. Let's get our priorities straight ... the peoples' health should come before the health of the economy. It's not a pleasant choice, I understand this, but historically, the economy has always come back. When people die, they remain dead.
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AND THEN THEY DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES. LOL

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Mar 26, 2020 11:03:21   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It isn't easy buying a car from home. My son has been trying to buy a new Fit after a deer destroyed his 2019. There is one at a dealer just 17 miles away, but he needs a loan from the bank and insurance cards. Bank access is limited to the drive-up teller, the car dealer's showroom is closed, DMV is closed, and the insurance company is working with limited staff. He has all the info for the car, including VIN, but getting the insurance cards is now the hold-up. The insurance company will email them to those involved, but that's taking time.

The dealer will bring the car to the house to complete the paperwork - outside the house - and they have a supply of new license plates, so the closed DMV isn't a problem. My son is working at Lowe's, which is considered an essential store. After all, people have to buy their plants, seeds, and gardening tools. Ridiculous! I'm driving him back and forth to work every day.

Studies have shown that people are not being good about staying at home. This is especially true in areas that don't have many reported cases. There are certainly thousands of carriers in those areas, but very few with symptoms, so people have a false sense of confidence. We're our own worst enemies.

Did you hear about the Coronavirus Party that a group of young people held in Kentucky? The only thing we have to fear is stupidity.
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There's a company that specializes in selling cars online, New or Used. It's called CarsDirect. Did he try them?

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Mar 26, 2020 11:38:01   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Yes, it is harsh but you must remember who watches Tucker Carlson. President Trump has already started saying things like "We can do two things at the same time" and FOX News is echoing that. His meaning was the country can both fight the virus and people can go back to work. The fallacy is that going back to work cuts down on fighting the virus. Cutting down on the virus fight will lead to its spread and a rise in deaths. When the numbers start to rise, the virus could start claiming younger people - perhaps the grandchildren the governor claims he trying to save. Let's get our priorities straight ... the peoples' health should come before the health of the economy. It's not a pleasant choice, I understand this, but historically, the economy has always come back. When people die, they remain dead.
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The real difficulty is that if the economy tanks, even more will die from malnutrition or the government itself could collapse along with infrastructure. I am not advocating economy over people but if nobody has money to pay for anything more businesses close and more people are out of work. Which closes more businesses. So now we have millions of people sitting at home and no income. No goods being made because the business can't sell anything.

The message is that some risk is necessary. I do not want to have to be the one to stand in front of the nation and say that we can stop the virus at the cost of nobody getting any food or water or electricity.

Rather than complaining about either party, EVERYONE needs to look at the bigger picture and think before they speak. I know its in vogue to bash our president or the other party but get your heads out of the sand and look at what is really happening before you start complaining. Its a bigger situation than you realize and needs a complex solution with everybody working together.

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Mar 26, 2020 12:04:26   #
olddutch Loc: Beloit, Wisconsin
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
The deer did not destroy your son's car. His car hit a deer because your son is too stupid to keep an eye on the sides of the road when driving at dusk. If one deer gallops across the road, there is likely another just behind it. Slow down at dusk and at night and be aware of wildlife crossing the road.


The fault is where the highway dept places the Deer Crossing signs. They should place them only in open areas where you can see them.

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Mar 26, 2020 12:12:39   #
Dannj
 
olddutch wrote:
The fault is where the highway dept places the Deer Crossing signs. They should place them only in open areas where you can see them.


Better yet, put them in places where there’s less traffic.

Ok, I’m waiting...😊

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Mar 26, 2020 12:35:16   #
Najataagihe
 
Howard5252 wrote:
The fallacy is that going back to work cuts down on fighting the virus. Cutting down on the virus fight will lead to its spread and a rise in deaths.

No, the fallacy is that "the virus fight" will stop the virus.

All it will do is slow it down - which is what we are trying to do, so as not to overload our medical support system.


Virii spread, there is not one blessed thing you can do to stop them and they hang around forever.

Heck, polio is still around and un-vaccinated folks still get it, all over the world.


Keep in mind that virii are known to survive the vacuum of Space and travel on comets and meteors.

They are tough little boogers.

You can slow the spread of a new one, but that is all you can do.


At some point, medical capabilities improve to the point where all cases can be properly handled.

At that point, things should go back to normal, for the danger of insufficient medical supplies is over.


Have we reached that point?

I don't know, but we are in a better position to provide care than we were two weeks ago.


It MAY be time to start planning on going back to normal operations.

We might also need to wait a week or two to get EVERYBODY up to snuff.


The fear is not the virus, itself, as we can't do anything about it.

The fear is not having enough medical support.

That fear may be past.


Keep your chin up and keep on snappin'!


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Mar 26, 2020 12:51:58   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
The deer did not destroy your son's car. His car hit a deer because your son is too stupid to keep an eye on the sides of the road when driving at dusk. If one deer gallops across the road, there is likely another just behind it. Slow down at dusk and at night and be aware of wildlife crossing the road.




Are you for real? you must be a hell of a superman one who never made even a small mistake

Looking at the side? I would say you have to use your peripheral vision while keeping both eyes on the road, and hoping that a deer won't climb on your hood at the last second when you are LOOKING at the SIDES

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Mar 26, 2020 13:00:33   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
foathog wrote:
I can see it now. I'm rejected for a ventilator due to my age because there was a young college kid who needed it. He got the virus while celebrating in Florida for Spring Break! Is that what you call sacrificing your life for the economy? maybe next year I'll get the Medal of Freedom Award from Trump. That's more than Rush Limboob did. LOL


Were you actually rejected for a ventilator that a young person received or is this just a made up story of what you think could happen. Did the student really get infected with Corona virus germs while celebrating in Florida or is it yet another made up story so you can try to put Conservatives down?

Surely you know that spreading bullshit like this does not help the country at all but tends to add to the division in our country right now.

Is this REALLY the best you can be under trying circumstances for ALL of us?

Dennis

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Mar 26, 2020 13:01:51   #
HRBIEL Loc: Rapid City, SD
 
olddutch wrote:
The fault is where the highway dept places the Deer Crossing signs. They should place them only in open areas where you can see them.


Yea, but then you would have to teach the deer to read, instruct them as to where the open areas are, and then you have retraining problems with the slow learners...

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Mar 26, 2020 13:07:32   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
The deer did not destroy your son's car. His car hit a deer because your son is too stupid to keep an eye on the sides of the road when driving at dusk. If one deer gallops across the road, there is likely another just behind it. Slow down at dusk and at night and be aware of wildlife crossing the road.


Having lived in Deer country since I was born I can't begin to tell you how wrong you are. Yes, of course, we should drive slower in Deer country from dusk to dawn. But do you KNOW how fast the young man was driving? Were you there? Or are you assuming he was speeding.

I have had two incidents regarding deer Vs vehicle. In one I was going slow down a very steep and icy hill when I saw a doe on the passenger side of the road. I slowed down as best I could, down from already going slow on the icy road. She stayed right there right up until she jumped in front of the vehicle. The other deer hit me right at the driver's side door as it ran across the road. I was going slower than the speed limit allowed and yet she decided to run across the road and hit my truck.

Things are not always as you make them up to be. You were not there when the young man struck the deer so don't know the actual facts from Shinola. Most of us reading your post would think you rude and obnoxious. That includes me.

Dennis

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Mar 26, 2020 13:11:58   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
olemikey wrote:
You must not drive much, esp. at night (for a statement like that I'd say you don't drive much, or at all)......... and you are an ASS for insulting the man's son - GROW UP. I love wildlife and am a very careful driver, but...... Deer and hogs run right through, they do not stop, look both ways, you often don't even see them coming as they dart out of the brush that often comes right to the edge of the road, and they can and will run into the side of your vehicle too (I've seen that happen to the car in front of me).

Deer and hogs at night - totally unpredictable. I stopped riding my MC to work because of this issue. Perhaps the newer cars with collision avoidance might help, but it happens so fast. If you are on a two lane with scrub and trees on the immediate sides, it's gonna happen. IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU SOMEDAY.

I hit a hog (driving my Jeep to work 4:00AM) doing 50 (60 MPH posted speed limit) on a 4 lane road with mowed grass, and light fog. I saw him (big boar, long as my Jeep was wide) on a full run crossing the oncoming lanes, I nearly pushed the brake through the floor, swerved, on the horn and had it down to possibly less than 10 MPH by the impact, I was lucky, I only had a bent bumper, the hog never looked, flinched or stopped. Some of my coworkers had front ends destroyed by hogs, deer and cows, one nearly died with a bull laying in the car on him, months to recover. Some saw the critter, some never saw it, none could stop in time. I hope you never have this unfortunate type accident.
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Mar 26, 2020 13:46:37   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
1Feathercrest wrote:
The deer did not destroy your son's car. His car hit a deer because your son is too stupid to keep an eye on the sides of the road when driving at dusk. If one deer gallops across the road, there is likely another just behind it. Slow down at dusk and at night and be aware of wildlife crossing the road.


A deer can sprint at 51 feet per second (35mph). We don’t know the width of the right-of-way but use 51 feet. Part of my commute it is less with forest very close to the road. That means that it would take a little over 1 second for the deer to be in the middle of your lane. In testing .25 seconds is considered good reaction time. It takes about 174 feet to stop in ideal circumstances at 50 mph. At that speed your car travels 73 feet. There are a number of variables like coefficient of friction on the road surface, the fact that driving is a divided attention task reducing testing reaction time. So what we know about the son’s Accident is.....well nothing. We don’t know his speed, his personal reaction time, the coefficient of frictional on the road surface, the right of way width, the speed of this deer, any environmental circumstances, the lighting, the condition of the brakes, the damage to the car. Nothing. Nada. You stating this kid was stupid is about as small minded of a statement as I’ve seen in years. Shame on you to judge someone in circumstances you don’t have a clue about. Anybody who has hit a deer or nearly hit one knows how wrong you are.

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