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Mar 24, 2020 11:41:56   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.

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Mar 24, 2020 11:47:34   #
Abo
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.


Roger, wilco.

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Mar 24, 2020 11:57:38   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.


You know you just can’t cure stupid!!!!

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Mar 24, 2020 12:15:02   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
My definition of self medication is way different than that :)

Beer, Bourbon, and Vodka still seem to be relatively safe for use.

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Mar 24, 2020 12:27:41   #
jpgto Loc: North East Tennessee
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.



Good advice Jerry! Just heard about this. The item they took is used for cleaning fish tanks! Folks please be careful.

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Mar 24, 2020 12:28:37   #
jpgto Loc: North East Tennessee
 
johngault007 wrote:
My definition of self medication is way different than that :)

Beer, Bourbon, and Vodka still seem to be relatively safe for use.



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Mar 24, 2020 14:53:09   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.


I read that this morning.... I'm trying to fact check it.

Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are anti-malarial (I think) that have been suggested as a possible treatment for Covid-19, when used in conjunction with an anti-viral.

That's been mentioned and supposedly is currently being evaluated, but is not yet approved, by the FDA. It is being used to treat the Wuhan virus in other countries that have less rigid controls on medications and is being given serious consideration for use here, under medical supervision and in proper dosages.

There was another article over the weekend saying the opposite... Quoting a guy who claims treatment with chloroquine "saved his life". He was under a doctor's care, in the hospital with the coronavirus and getting worse with severe breathing problems even on a respirator. As a last resort the doctor tried dosing him with chloroquine (plus an anti-viral) and within 12 to 24 hours he was "much improved" and is "looking forward to leaving the hospital in 4 or 5 days".

I'd fact check this story, too.

Supposedly in a recent presser Trump stated it chloroquine had been FDA approved as a treatment. But according to doctors it has not. It's still being evaluated. It is a widely used and well known drug, so side effects and proper dosage aren't the issue. The FDA is looking into efficacy... I.e., testing if it's actually effective treating someone ill with the Wuhan virus.

Supposedly the guy who died (and his wife) took chloroquine phosphate not to treat any illness... neither of them were known to have the virus (or at the very least they were asymptomatic). They took it as a preventative... which it definitely ain't!!!

Buried deep down in the story it was stated that what they took wasn't even medical chloroquine... it was a product used to clean aquariums! Heelloooooo!!! There was no indication what quantities he and his wife took, either. Heck, too much vitamin A, vitamin D or aspirin can kill you! Even too much water can kill you (it's called "drowning" ).

There's tons of misinformation being spewed about coronavirus and the pandemic. Take it all with a grain of salt and be careful!

By the way... chloroquine was invented by Fujifilm's medical division. Their stock went way up when news about that came out. Too bad the patent on it ran out years ago and they won't see a penny profit from any spike in sales if it proves to be effective and sees wide demand.

As far as vodka etc. is concerned, one doctor said it would be pretty effective killing viruses and bacteria if it was used to wipe down surfaces... but not effective against the virus when drunk. However, after a few drinks you probably won't care.

P.S. I deleted 226 emails from my spam filter yesterday! About a week's worth, a lot of them were "cures" or preventatives for the virus.

Here in California the smoke shops and gun stores are closed (non-essential businesses). But the marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores are open... Apparently they're "essential", like grocery stores, laundromats, gas stations, auto parts and office supply stores. Can't get a hair cut or a manicure... And can't go work out at the gym. Dressing up in a T. Rex costume doesn't protect against coronovirus or exempt you from quarantine. It's okay to walk your dog. Just stay 6 feet from other people (the following invention appears to only be effective to about 3 or 4 feet).


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Mar 24, 2020 15:23:02   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
amfoto1 wrote:
I read that this morning.... I'm trying to fact check it.

Chloroquine and Hydrochloroquine are anti-malarial (I think) that have been suggested as a possible treatment for Covid-19, when used in conjunction with an anti-viral.

That's been mentioned and supposedly is currently being evaluated, but is not yet approved, by the FDA. It is being used to treat the Wuhan virus in other countries that have less rigid controls on medications and is being given serious consideration for use here, under medical supervision and in proper dosages.

There was another article over the weekend that said the opposite... Quoting a guy who claims treatment with chloroquine "saved his life". He was under a doctor's care, in the hospital with the coronavirus and getting worse with severe breathing problems even on a respirator. As a last resort the doctor to tried dosing him with chloroquine (plus an anti-viral) and within 12 hours he was "much improved" and is "looking forward to leaving the hospital in 4 or 5 days".

I'd fact check that story, too.

Supposedly in a recent presser Trump stated it chloroquine had been FDA approved as a treatment. But according to doctors it has not. It's still being evaluated. It is a widely used and well known drug, so side effects and proper dosage aren't the issue. The FDA is looking into efficacy... I.e., testing if it's actually effective treating someone ill with the Wuhan virus.

Supposedly the guy who died (and his wife) took chloroquine phosphate not to treat any illness... neither of them were known to have the virus (or at the very least they were asymptomatic). They took it as a preventative... which it definitely ain't!!!

Buried deep down in the story it was stated that what they took wasn't even medical chloroquine... it was a product used to clean aquariums! Heelloooooo!!! There was no indication what quantities he and his wife took, either. Heck, too much vitamin A, vitamin D or aspirin can kill you! Even too much water can kill you (it's called "drowning" ).

There's tons of misinformation being spewed about coronavirus and the pandemic. Take it all with a grain of salt and be careful!

By the way... chloroquine was invented by Fujifilm's medical division. Their stock went way up when news about that came out. Too bad the patent on it ran out years ago and they won't see a penny profit from any spike in sales if it proves to be effective and sees wide demand.

As far as vodka etc. is concerned, one doctor said it would be pretty effective killing viruses and bacteria if it was used to wipe down surfaces... but not effective against the virus when drunk. However, after a few drinks you probably won't care.

Here in California the smoke shops and gun stores are closed (non-essential businesses). But the marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores are open... they're "essential", like grocery stores, laundromats, gas stations, auto parts and office supply stores. Can't get a hair cut or a manicure... And can't go work out at the gym. Dressing up in a T. Rex costume doesn't protect against coronovirus or exempt you from quarantine. It's okay to walk your dog. Just stay 6 feet from other people (the following invention appears to only be effective to about 3 or 4 feet).
I read that this morning.... I'm trying to fact ch... (show quote)


Yeah, that was very long but at least more grounded than most hysteria and myths banging around the interwebs.

As far as the vodka statement, it had to do with drinking (self medicating), but was very sarcastic and not intended as medical advice. It's an old Navy trick to ward off sickness (i.e. An excuse to drink).

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Mar 24, 2020 15:38:17   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
johngault007 wrote:
...As far as the vodka statement, it had to do with drinking (self medicating), but was very sarcastic and not intended as medical advice....


Oh, I understood what you meant. A vodka martini was my ex-wife's cure for many things!

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Mar 24, 2020 15:39:18   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Oh, I understood what you meant. A vodka martini was my ex-wife's cure for many things!



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Mar 24, 2020 16:00:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
RichardSM wrote:
You know you just can’t cure stupid!!!!


Well, they're trying with the wife.

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Mar 24, 2020 16:03:28   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Here in California the smoke shops and gun stores are closed (non-essential businesses). But the marijuana dispensaries and liquor stores are open... Apparently they're "essential", like grocery stores, laundromats, gas stations, auto parts and office supply stores. Can't get a hair cut or a manicure... And can't go work out at the gym. Dressing up in a T. Rex costume doesn't protect against coronovirus or exempt you from quarantine. It's okay to walk your dog. Just stay 6 feet from other people (the following invention appears to only be effective to about 3 or 4 feet).
Here in California the smoke shops and gun stores ... (show quote)



Good post.

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Mar 25, 2020 00:34:07   #
Busbum Loc: 85367
 
Do you have a source about this information???


jerryc41 wrote:
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.

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Mar 25, 2020 05:24:42   #
ltatko
 
Jerry, stop practising w/o a license!!

Anyway, thanks for the info!!

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Mar 25, 2020 06:02:09   #
WessoJPEG Loc: Cincinnati, Ohio
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A man in AZ died, and his wife is in critical condition after they took something that they thought would prevent them from getting infected by the virus. There is no medication and no vaccine for this virus, so don't take a chance with your own remedies.


The Darwin Award.

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