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1st B/W Mt Ranier from Goat Rocks Viewpoint
Feb 7, 2020 15:50:45   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Camera: DMC FZ1000
Aperture: F/4
Zoom: 37.13 mm
Shutter: 1/3000
EV: -1
PP: DxO Photolab 3
Adjustments: Camera defaults, B/W HDR, Clearview, Slight darkening of shadows and black


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Feb 7, 2020 15:54:28   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
TheShoe wrote:
Camera: DMC FZ1000
Aperture: F/4
Zoom: 37.13 mm
Shutter: 1/3000
EV: -1
PP: DxO Photolab 3
Adjustments: Camera defaults, B/W HDR, Clearview, Slight darkening of shadows and black


Nice composition of a classic mountain view.

It would be more effective if you created a new layer put a graduated filter on the sky and turned down the contrast.

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Feb 7, 2020 17:44:56   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I posted a b&w in Landscape Forum a couple of days ago shot from the same scenic overlook! I feel that your sky and clouds overpower this majestic mountain, but you did a great job on the foreground details. These are personal opinions only.

You posted to Photo Analysis (though Admin will likely move it to Gallery); that is why I am offering feedback.

If your topic is moved, you can read the Analysis section guidelines to help you understand why:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-19061-1.html

If you aren't familiar with the UHH sections that are moderated by volunteers, click on "all sections" at the bottom of this page. There are several that can provide feedback on processing, composition and more. Many folks in Gallery are willing to provide critique also, but it's best to ask for it upfront as Gallery is primarily for sharing. Most sections have a rules/guidelines doc at the top of their first page of topics.

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Feb 7, 2020 20:04:15   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Nice composition of a classic mountain view.

It would be more effective if you created a new layer put a graduated filter on the sky and turned down the contrast.


Thanks for the advice. Turning down the contrast is easy; creating the new layer with the grad filter, not so easy. For that I will have to fight my way through all of the helpful advice given by those who assume that the receiver of that advice is already an expert. Since you only gave the what and not the how, you are not included in the group of the prior comment.

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Feb 7, 2020 21:09:24   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
I posted a b&w in Landscape Forum a couple of days ago shot from the same scenic overlook! I feel that your sky and clouds overpower this majestic mountain, but you did a great job on the foreground details. These are personal opinions only.

You posted to Photo Analysis (though Admin will likely move it to Gallery); that is why I am offering feedback.

If your topic is moved, you can read the Analysis section guidelines to help you understand why:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-19061-1.html

If you aren't familiar with the UHH sections that are moderated by volunteers, click on "all sections" at the bottom of this page. There are several that can provide feedback on processing, composition and more. Many folks in Gallery are willing to provide critique also, but it's best to ask for it upfront as Gallery is primarily for sharing. Most sections have a rules/guidelines doc at the top of their first page of topics.
I posted a b&w in Landscape Forum a couple of ... (show quote)


Linda, your opinion is always welcome. Also, thanks for the comments about UHH; I stand corrected. Does this improve the photo?


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Feb 8, 2020 08:26:14   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
TheShoe wrote:
Linda, your opinion is always welcome. Also, thanks for the comments about UHH; I stand corrected. Does this improve the photo?
For me it does, though now the foreground looks a tiny bit too dark

However, you should process how you want to see it hanging on your wall!

Did you happen to view mine?
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-630773-1.html

Several people mentioned that the foreground troubled them for its lack of details. I gave the original file to a few via pm and they returned edits to me. Today I'm going to compare them all and see if I can recreate. My own challenge with the foreground is the sunlight was skimming the tops of a few trees, while leaving much of that area in deep shadow. I exposed more for the mountain so I have to go digging for details in noisy dark.

If you are just starting to dabble with b&w processing, you might check a few recent topics in PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-629370-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-628133-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-627873-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-626501-1.html

You are welcome to post a photo thread there for assistance any time!

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Feb 8, 2020 14:10:28   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:

Did you happen to view mine?
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-630773-1.html

Several people mentioned that the foreground troubled them for its lack of details. I gave the original file to a few via pm and they returned edits to me. Today I'm going to compare them all and see if I can recreate. My own challenge with the foreground is the sunlight was skimming the tops of a few trees, while leaving much of that area in deep shadow. I exposed more for the mountain so I have to go digging for details in noisy dark.

If you are just starting to dabble with b&w processing, you might check a few recent topics in PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-629370-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-628133-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-627873-1.html
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-626501-1.html

You are welcome to post a photo thread there for assistance any time!
br Did you happen to view mine? br https://www.u... (show quote)


Yes, I saw yours. That is what convinced me to try b/w. I knew that mine would, of necessity, be completely different because of the foreground differences and mine was taken in late June following a hot spell that melted much of the snow and ice. Thanks for the links and criticism.

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Feb 9, 2020 02:22:55   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
TheShoe wrote:
Thanks for the advice. Turning down the contrast is easy; creating the new layer with the grad filter, not so easy. For that I will have to fight my way through all of the helpful advice given by those who assume that the receiver of that advice is already an expert. Since you only gave the what and not the how, you are not included in the group of the prior comment.


Ok. I was assuming that as somebody who is doing post-processing, you have an editing program like Photoshop, ON1 or ACDSee that supports layering.

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Feb 9, 2020 13:19:46   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Ok. I was assuming that as somebody who is doing post-processing, you have an editing program like Photoshop, ON1 or ACDSee that supports layering.


It is PP using DxO Photolab 3; however, I have not yet figured out how to use their adjustment layers. The Online tutorials seem to be using turbo speed and directed to someone who already knows how to use them. In younger days I might have picked it up by now, but that is not happening very quickly

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