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Feb 3, 2020 20:45:44   #
Raybo Loc: George Town, Grand Cayman
 
I'm pretty new to post processing...didn't even realize until recently what that "RAW" thing was in my cameras and why i should should use it. (Don't worry...I'm now fully converted to RAW, and actually almost always in manual mode.)

Anyway, below are a few photos from the last few years. Most of them were JPG's to start with. M4/3 Olympus on the California photos, Canon T6 with a kit EF-S 18-55 for the New England, and the T6 with a Tamron 35mm/F1.8 VC for the Cuba photos. Those were shot RAW.

I've been messing around (using ON1) with trying to get some "pop" out of them, but don't really know if I've taken things too far.

The NE stuff has been a challenge because it was almost always overcast, and my edits to the sky to try to get the blue to come out almost looks unnatural to me...

Any suggestions and positive criticism in this regard would be greatly appreciated...for either editing or composition.

Acadia Lake
Acadia Lake...

Alcatraz Library
Alcatraz Library...

Cape Cod LH
Cape Cod LH...

Havana Residence
Havana Residence...

Sandwich, MA
Sandwich, MA...

Pigeon Point LH
Pigeon Point LH...

Havana Storefront
Havana Storefront...

NH RR Bridge
NH RR Bridge...

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Feb 3, 2020 20:51:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
They look fine to me, not overdone at all.

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Feb 3, 2020 21:07:08   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Your Havana have a natural colorful look, but I think Acadia Lake, NH RR Bridge and Sandwich MA may have been stretched beyond the capabilities of the original file. If the skies had minimal blue to begin with, it can take a lot of pp experience - especially with a jpg - to make them look right. With Acadia and NH, there is also a sort of flat look to the light which could be your edits or just the reality.

Any time you're interested in seeing what others can do with your image, please visit us in PP Forum:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-116-1.html

Be sure to post an unedited file, large size, with the "store original" box checked so people can download to work on it.

Processing can be enjoyable and rewarding, and in whatever style you choose. Over-baked to some is four-star delectable to others And you may discover that your interests and tastes change over time as you refine your skills.

Welcome to the new world!

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Feb 3, 2020 21:08:40   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Fine to me also. I always ignore those who complain about overcooking. I live in an area and close to another one that many pictures are called overcooked when they look fine to me. Just criticized by those unfamiliar with the area who think pastel when So Cal and the Southwest are not pastel.

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Feb 3, 2020 22:00:35   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
I agree with Linda--the skies look over worked to me. Also, I think the first Havana photo would be stronger if the roof and sky were shown; as is, it seems a bit cut off.

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Feb 3, 2020 22:02:13   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
hassighedgehog wrote:
I always ignore those who complain about overcooking. I live in an area and close to another one that many pictures are called overcooked when they look fine to me.


The OP asked for C&C including processing, so I'm giving my opinion regarding that. Considering that context, your term "complaining" is out of line.

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Feb 3, 2020 22:06:12   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
dat2ra wrote:
The OP asked for C&C including processing, so I'm giving my opinion regarding that. Considering that context, your term "complaining" is out of line.

I'm guessing he went off on a tangent and is referencing over-processing complainers in general, not explicitly your statement. If this is true, it could have been worded a little better to avoid the misinterpretation.

If not, have at it.

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Feb 3, 2020 22:18:47   #
flyboy61 Loc: The Great American Desert
 
Acadia Lake, if anything, looked a bit underexposed, but! in tropical climes, I think you will find bright, bodacious colors as in Havana, to be prominent. Interesting set!

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Feb 3, 2020 22:49:43   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
I have never been to Cuba so I can't comment but I have been to Pigeon Point literally more times than I can remember and there is nothing wrong with that picture. I am curious when it was taken

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Feb 4, 2020 01:02:25   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
A belated welcome to the UHH, Raybo. Glad to have you here.

"Overbaked" calls for a judgement, and I see that the question has already caused upset and hurt feelings.

I guess the important thing is what do you see and what you are going for? I was recently doing a lot of revisiting of old images and working on them, and wondered if I was "overbaking" things. So I sent PMs to people whose judgement I respect to get their feedback. Had I posted it on a public thread, there would be pages and pages of heated arguments about "how much post processing is too much?"

Mike

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Feb 4, 2020 03:25:34   #
Bob Mevis Loc: Plymouth, Indiana
 
Nice series.

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Feb 4, 2020 05:30:31   #
Raybo Loc: George Town, Grand Cayman
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
I have never been to Cuba so I can't comment but I have been to Pigeon Point literally more times than I can remember and there is nothing wrong with that picture. I am curious when it was taken


October 2016, Olympus TG870, F8.5, 1/640 sec., ISO 125...a small point and shoot.

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Feb 4, 2020 05:50:25   #
Raybo Loc: George Town, Grand Cayman
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Your Havana have a natural colorful look, but I think Acadia Lake, NH RR Bridge and Sandwich MA may have been stretched beyond the capabilities of the original file. If the skies had minimal blue to begin with, it can take a lot of pp experience - especially with a jpg - to make them look right. With Acadia and NH, there is also a sort of flat look to the light which could be your edits or just the reality.




Havana was with a better lens. 35mm F1.8 prime. And taken as RAW. And I think you're right on the others. Those were among the first 100-150 clicks on that camera, so some learning going on. And light was extremely flat the whole trip to New England, but even though many of them aren't all that great, it was still a good time, will provide many memories.

And more importantly, rekindled an interest in photography. Have since expensed (as opposed to invested...I don't do it professionally) in better glass and now shooting pretty much only Raw.

Still learning...

Thanks to all for the replies


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Feb 4, 2020 06:20:00   #
duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa
 
What do YOU think of them? Are you happy with the way they look? If you say no then open them back up and try again. Otherwise it does not matter what I or anyone else thinks about them. Shoot for you, process for you is the best advice I was given.

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Feb 4, 2020 07:46:34   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Raybo wrote:
Havana was with a better lens. 35mm F1.8 prime. And taken as RAW. And I think you're right on the others. Those were among the first 100-150 clicks on that camera, so some learning going on. And light was extremely flat the whole trip to New England, but even though many of them aren't all that great, it was still a good time, will provide many memories.

And more importantly, rekindled an interest in photography. Have since expensed (as opposed to invested...I don't do it professionally) in better glass and now shooting pretty much only Raw.

Still learning...

Thanks to all for the replies
Havana was with a better lens. 35mm F1.8 prime. ... (show quote)
For me the sky in the ocean pic is quite beautiful in this second (unedited?) version. The foliage shot has several options: enjoy as-is, crop out some of the sky, learn how to replace the sky, learn how to add a little color to sky while keeping your attention on making the pop (the impact) come with edits to the tree colors. I have Nik Collection and I know the "sunlight" filter could be fun with that one

As with most of the world it seems this past decade, photography forum discussions can be contentious. This is very sad since for most of us photography is a joyous hobby. There is no reason that folks can't offer constructive suggestions and feedback aside from ego and "I can be nasty online because I can."

Feedback is simply part of the learning process and has nothing to do with who is right or wrong. For several years now I've enjoyed hearing what others have to say about my pictures - as long as they are thoughtful and courteous in their comments. It's only the Great Truth Tellers who believe nobody is right who doesn't agree with their pov. Ignore those types as best you can. With the rest, take what you think is of value to your own interests and journey.

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