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Feb 1, 2020 15:14:19   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
JD750 wrote:
Did anybody even bother to check ou the link I posted on page one? It explains the why of it. He provides some test images with tabs showing the effects of different color spaces. Most monitors cannot display al the colors (gamut) of Adobe RGB. Some cannot even cover all of sRGB. And depending on which browser you use, your browser might display different colors than what are "true", which is why it is important to embed a color profile in the metadata.

http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page1
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It's a long read. The material is over 13 years old and it's not really easy to follow.

Some of the points being made may be very out of date or obvious. For example, if an image has an embedded profile but it is ignored the colors won't look right. Is this really news to anyone? On the other hand, if the embedded profile is recognized and the monitor is calibrated it will probably look right. Anyone surprised there?

It really does not address the need for one particular color space over another.

A more useful set of examples might be images that display correctly in one profile when the profile is appropriately embedded and recognized vs. incorrectly when saved in another profile with that profile appropriately embedded and recognized.

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Feb 1, 2020 15:15:52   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
selmslie wrote:
It's a long read. The material is over 13 years old and it's not really easy to follow.

Some of the points being made may be very out of date or obvious. For example, if an image has an embedded profile but it is ignored the colors won't look right. Is this really news to anyone? On the other hand, if the embedded profile is recognized and the monitor is calibrated it will probably look right. Anyone surprised there?

It really does not address the need for one particular color space over another.

A more useful set of examples might be images that display correctly in one profile when the profile is appropriately embedded and recognized vs. incorrectly when saved in another profile with that profile appropriately embedded and recognized.
It's a long read. The material is over 13 years o... (show quote)


You mean like the several examples in this thread?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-362867-1.html

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Feb 1, 2020 15:51:56   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Ysarex wrote:
Yes I did. It has some problems. It's dated. It's so dated that what it claims is the case may now be the opposite. For example: "And herein lies the problem: many browsers are not “color managed” applications, meaning that they do not know how to recognize or understand color profiles." I believe today that would best be said as; most if not all browsers are color managed and do correctly interpret image color space profiles. That article is 13 years old -- in this business that's a long time.

It has embedded links that not surprisingly go nowhere.

It's got some technical weaknesses and misunderstandings. Referring to sRGB for example the article claims: "It's the official default color space for the World Wide Web." No it is not. It's appropriate to say that sRGB is the best choice color space to use when placing images on the Internet, but the Internet has no color space let alone an official one.

Joe
Yes I did. It has some problems. It's dated. It's ... (show quote)


Well at least you looked. Just because the info is older does not mean it is wrong. I did the test with several browsers and got different results in 2020.

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Feb 1, 2020 16:51:43   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
JD750 wrote:
Did anybody even bother to check ou the link I posted on page one? It explains the why of it. He provides some test images with tabs showing the effects of different color spaces. Most monitors cannot display al the colors (gamut) of Adobe RGB. Some cannot even cover all of sRGB. And depending on which browser you use, your browser might display different colors than what are "true", which is why it is important to embed a color profile in the metadata.

http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page1
Did anybody even bother to check ou the link I pos... (show quote)


I did. What do you think we should be getting from that article? I don't think the tabs are showing the effects of different color spaces, are they? He is answering the question "does your browser respect an embedded color profile?" rather than comparing color profiles.

Mike

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Feb 1, 2020 16:51:57   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
You mean like the several examples in this thread?

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-362867-1.html

No, that's not at all what I mean.

That thread shows an example of what happens when you post an image that is not sRGB on UHH. The thumbnail, which is missing the color space information, cannot display correctly but the download, which still retains the color space information, will display correctly.

This has been explained scores of times on this forum and the explanation will probably need to be repeated many more times until UHH stops removing the color space information from the thumbnail or until Linda from Maine finally gets tired of repeating the explanation.

Here is an example:

sRGB - the download will show the same colors
sRGB - the download will show the same colors...
(Download)

ProPhoto RGB - the thumbnail colors are wrong but the download is correct
ProPhoto RGB - the thumbnail colors are wrong but ...
(Download)

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Feb 1, 2020 16:56:38   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
selmslie wrote:
... Here is an example:

And another example:

sRGB
sRGB...
(Download)

ProPhoto RGB
ProPhoto RGB...
(Download)

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Feb 1, 2020 19:45:02   #
Ysarex Loc: St. Louis
 
JD750 wrote:
Well at least you looked. Just because the info is older does not mean it is wrong.


But it is wrong.

Joe

JD750 wrote:
I did the test with several browsers and got different results in 2020.


I just tested Opera, Microsoft IE, Microsoft Edge, Firefox, Chrome and I know Safari is good. They all read and process image color space tags. What am I missing and who uses whatever it is I just missed?

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