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Dec 29, 2019 15:59:53   #
gwilliams6
 
Nikon's industrial/medical business is doing well and has always been a bigger profit part of the Nikon corporation than its consumer camera division. So Nikon will not go out of business, even if the camera division is doing poorly. Click bait gets folks money. Nikon needs to improve their mirrorless cameras and lenses and give consumers and pros models that can fully compete with Sony and others. If they do, they will be alright. If not then Nikon survives but the consumer camera division might not.

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Dec 29, 2019 16:05:05   #
Bill P
 
Yesm=, that has been reported too. But because of their sensor fabbing equipment it wouldn't surprise anyone that they have a small sensor fabbing ability to test things out. Since the D4 was such a major advancement for Nikon, it makes sense they would step lightly in the beginning.

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Dec 29, 2019 16:26:48   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Sony makes Nikon's high-end sensors. They've embedded a clever bug into all Nikon cameras with these Sony sensors: the Nikon suddenly dies for every new Sony mirrorless sold. Just look online for 'Nikon Sudden Death Syndrome'. I've seen a thread where they think from your Nikon serial number you can identify the week number in the calendar year (01 -> 53) your camera is most likely to die.


Let me check the calendar...no not April 1 yet. (should have saved it for then)

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Dec 29, 2019 16:35:34   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
bobishkan wrote:
According to Tony Northrup's very recent You Tube, "Nikon is Dying", Nikon is going out of business unless they change things quickly. What do you think?


Yep, and I saw a cow jump over the last full moon.

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Dec 29, 2019 16:37:05   #
BebuLamar
 
Sidwalkadtronomy wrote:
Look at Kodak being slow to go digitial from film


I am not sure Kodak failed because of that. They invented the digital camera in the 70's and they were among the first to introduce DSLR's. Kodak was also the first to make 1MP sensor. Well Kodak didn't make the body of those cameras but Kodak never really wanted to make serious camera bodies. They had some very nice cameras like the Retina but they were made by a company that Kodak bought. Kodak couldn't buy Nikon or Canon which they used the bodies to make their DSLR's.

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Dec 29, 2019 16:41:40   #
Angel Star Photography Loc: Tacoma, WA
 
User ID wrote:
" According to Tony Northrup "


Now that's a good one...got a chuckle out it.

I watched Tony a while ago upon a friend's recommendation and came away with the perception he is more about the show than photography itself. I haven't been back since---don't like his videos and put very little stock in his opinions.

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Dec 29, 2019 16:53:43   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I am not sure Kodak failed because of that. They invented the digital camera in the 70's and they were among the first to introduce DSLR's. Kodak was also the first to make 1MP sensor. Well Kodak didn't make the body of those cameras but Kodak never really wanted to make serious camera bodies. They had some very nice cameras like the Retina but they were made by a company that Kodak bought. Kodak couldn't buy Nikon or Canon which they used the bodies to make their DSLR's.


Correct Kodak had the first digital cameras and DSLRs and they were pioneering, I used them as a photojournalist. But Kodak was making so much more money from its film sales and film cameras that they made the corporate decisions to focus on that and not spend more millions on digital cameras and tech. A fatal corporate decision. The remaining Kodak still collects royalties on patents for DLSR tech even today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak_DCS

In 1975 Kodak engineer Steven Sasson invented the first digital still camera, which uses a Fairchild 100 x 100 pixel CCD.[1][2] By 1986 Kodak had developed a sensor with 1.4 million pixels.[3]

35mm Nikon based

A Kodak DCS 760, a six megapixel digital SLR based on a Nikon F5
All models based on Nikon body and use Nikon's F mount.

Kodak DCS - May 1991, later called DCS 100, first commercially available DSLR camera, Nikon F3 based body. Many variants.
Kodak DCS 200 - 1993, Nikon F-801s (N8008s) based body. Color, monochrome and infrared variants.
Kodak NC2000 series - August 1994, Nikon F90/N90 and N90s based body, designed in speed and noise characteristics for press use.
Kodak DCS 400 series - August 1994, Nikon F90/N90 and Nikon F90s/N90s based body
Kodak DCS 600 series - 1999, Nikon F5 based body
Kodak DCS 700 series - 2001, Nikon F5 based body
Kodak DCS Pro 14n - 2002, Nikon F80 based body, full-frame. Kodak DCS Pro 14nx variant incorporates updated sensor, memory buffer and firmware from DCS Pro SLR/n.
Kodak DCS Pro SLR/n - 2004, Nikon F80 based body, full-frame.

A Kodak DCS 560, a six megapixel digital SLR based on a Canon EOS-1N
APS Nikon based
Kodak DCS 300 series - 1998 and 1999, budget priced professional Nikon APS format SLR Pronea 600i and Pronea 6i based body, uses Nikon's F mount and additionally special Nikkor IX (APS) lenses
35mm Canon based
All models use Canon's EF lens mount.

Kodak EOS DCS series - 1995, Canon EOS-1n based body. Rebranded by Canon as EOS DCS 1, -3 and -5.
Kodak DCS 500 series - 1998, Canon EOS-1n based body. Rebranded by Canon as Canon EOS D2000 and Canon EOS D6000
Kodak DCS Pro SLR/c - 2004, Sigma SA9, with Canon EF compatible mount and electronics.

View taken with a Kodak 760C from orbit.[11]
Medium format camera backs
Kodak DCS Pro 645 - 1995, 6-megapixel digital camera back for several medium format cameras like Hasselblad 500 / 503, Mamiya RB / RZ and Sinar cameras
Kodak DCS Pro Back / Plus / 645 - 2000, 16-megapixel digital camera back for several medium format cameras.
References

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Dec 29, 2019 17:00:17   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
User ID wrote:
" According to Tony Northrup "


Yes and Tony is full of it!

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Dec 29, 2019 17:03:16   #
gwilliams6
 
Dennis833 wrote:
Yes and Tony is full of it!


Full of Youtube money

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Dec 29, 2019 17:05:05   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
JeffL wrote:
Yes, another example of “fake news”.


Not necessarily "fake news"; merely someone's speculation
with just no basis in fact yet. The speculation was based off a poor showing against a predicted profitability. Not necessarily unreasonable without looking at other data. In the future, it could be true. And maybe some of the other camera companies will be gone too. Olympus knew it would have a "bad" camera year this year. If it continues for the next five years, I would predict they will be gone. But that is not what is expected.

For example, back in the horse travel days, buggy whips were a competitive and profitable business. They still make buggy whips today. And for the few making them, it is profitable - since they can charge enough to make a profit without hardly any competition. Just not a lot of call for buggy whips in a car and truck transportation era.

As cellphones get more sophisticated, built-in zoom lenses that do not stick out, and 60, 80, 100, and more megapixel sensors, the camera market for a still/video stand alone camera will get even smaller and tougher. Not everyone will chose to stay as the profits get smaller and smaller because of too much division of the market's potential profit with too many competitors. As I agreed with a previous UHHer, time will tell. I don't think it is the death knell for Nikon, Olympus, or others quite yet.

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Dec 29, 2019 17:15:31   #
johonew
 
yssirk123 wrote:
TN is a click monster - I unsubscribed and stopped watching his videos after the despicable hatchet job he did on Steve McCurry.


...and quite the hatchet job it was. Gotta agree with you...very unprofessional, but quite likely, very click-worthy, and therefore, worth TN's time. I lost a lot of respect for TN with that piece.

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Dec 29, 2019 17:17:26   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
billnikon wrote:
OH HELP, THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING. And since I said this on the internet, IT MUST BE TRUE.


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Dec 29, 2019 18:01:13   #
adm
 
I believe this as much as the rumor a month or so ago that Olympus was selling its camera division. This turned out to be a hoax.

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Dec 29, 2019 18:01:15   #
adm
 
I believe this as much as the rumor a month or so ago that Olympus was selling its camera division. This turned out to be a hoax.

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Dec 29, 2019 18:08:10   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
bobishkan wrote:
According to Tony Northrup's very recent You Tube, "Nikon is Dying", Nikon is going out of business unless they change things quickly. What do you think?


They said the same thing about GM a few years ago. Hmmm. Nikon is one of Japan's too big to fail companies.

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