A point of grammar
Dec 16, 2019 13:13:32 #
Some where, some one on this post mentioned introverts. I have riddle. How can you tell the difference between an introverted engineer versus an extroverted engineer?
The introverted engineer looks at his shoes when he talks to, while the extroverted looks at your shoes when he talks to you.
The introverted engineer looks at his shoes when he talks to, while the extroverted looks at your shoes when he talks to you.
Dec 16, 2019 13:17:47 #
The error which really makes me cringe, because it shows a real lack of grammatical sense, is "I should of..", instead of "I should have", or "I would of..." It gives the impression that the writer never actually reads anything and knows the language by ear and not by sight.
Dec 16, 2019 13:30:04 #
[quote=Ichiban365]The error which really makes me cringe, because it shows a real lack of grammatical sense, is "I should of..", instead of "I should have", or "I would of..." It gives the impression that the writer never actually reads anything and knows t
Dec 16, 2019 13:37:13 #
Some things are so common they are considered acceptable. Doesn’t mean it isn’t grating to hear. My pet peeve is “preventative”. I am a retired dentist and heard that word all the time. It is “preventive”. No need to throw an extra “a” in there. You don’t say “selectative” or “electative“. No need to put an extra “a” in preventive. But look in the dictionary and it is considered acceptable either way. Go figure.
Dec 16, 2019 14:23:44 #
If you mean more than one comma, that is spelled "commas". If you mean something belonging to a comma, that would be "comma's". This is one of the most common errors today in print.
Dec 16, 2019 14:28:48 #
The worst errors I see are in the local newspaper, but I was told that the first staff to be let go to cut expenses is the copy editor. BTW, it's "ellipses" not "ellipsis" as there are always more than one.... if you get my drift.
Latin I and II, freshman and sophomore years in convent school, continues to be useful.
I only hear Kewpon here in the south. Coo pon is a yankee recitation.
Latin I and II, freshman and sophomore years in convent school, continues to be useful.
I only hear Kewpon here in the south. Coo pon is a yankee recitation.
Dec 16, 2019 14:28:52 #
Pretty soon stupidity will become acceptable. That's how coo pon is becoming kyoo pon. Let's all succumb to the idiots. LOL[/quote]
Not so fast . . . Wikipedia has this to say about coupon: "A common alternate American pronunciation is /ˈkjuːpɒn/ KEW-pon." Growing up in the Midwest, that is the way I learned how to pronounce it. To say "coo pon" was considered an affectation.
Not so fast . . . Wikipedia has this to say about coupon: "A common alternate American pronunciation is /ˈkjuːpɒn/ KEW-pon." Growing up in the Midwest, that is the way I learned how to pronounce it. To say "coo pon" was considered an affectation.
Dec 16, 2019 14:30:26 #
...my pet peeve with sports announcers is to talk about the team which is losing to say "The XXXs are within two runs of tying the game."
Now, does that mean they are a run behind? One is "within" two.
Of course not.
Unless it's an introvert, two can't be inside itself.
The announcer should be saying the XXXs are two runs behind, or two runs down, or even "need two runs to tie."
Now, does that mean they are a run behind? One is "within" two.
Of course not.
Unless it's an introvert, two can't be inside itself.
The announcer should be saying the XXXs are two runs behind, or two runs down, or even "need two runs to tie."
Dec 16, 2019 14:32:50 #
DaveC
Loc: Illinois
Not according to what I’ve found.
The ellipsis can consist of either three or four periods, or dots. A single dot is called an ellipsis point. An ellipsis that indicates the omission of one or more words within a sentence consists of three spaced dots.
plural noun: ellipses
a regular oval shape, traced by a point moving in a plane so that the sum of its distances from two other points (the foci) is constant, or resulting when a cone is cut by an oblique plane which does not intersect the base
The ellipsis can consist of either three or four periods, or dots. A single dot is called an ellipsis point. An ellipsis that indicates the omission of one or more words within a sentence consists of three spaced dots.
plural noun: ellipses
a regular oval shape, traced by a point moving in a plane so that the sum of its distances from two other points (the foci) is constant, or resulting when a cone is cut by an oblique plane which does not intersect the base
Dec 16, 2019 14:35:06 #
alliebess
Loc: suburban Philadelphia
Lemon Drop Kid wrote:
Pretty soon stupidity will become acceptable. That's how coo pon is becoming kyoo pon. Let's all succumb to the idiots. LOL
Not so fast . . . Wikipedia has this to say about coupon: "A common alternate American pronunciation is /ˈkjuːpɒn/ KEW-pon." Growing up in the Midwest, that is the way I learned how to pronounce it. To say "coo pon" was considered an affectation.[/quote]
I grew up in western Maryland where I also learned to say KEW-pon. Also heard "crick" for creek although not in my family.
Dec 16, 2019 14:36:44 #
Nancysc wrote:
The worst errors I see are in the local newspaper, but I was told that the first staff to be let go to cut expenses is the copy editor. BTW, it's "ellipses" not "ellipsis" as there are always more than one.... if you get my drift.
Latin I and II, freshman and sophomore years in convent school, continues to be useful.
I only hear Kewpon here in the south. Coo pon is a yankee recitation.
Latin I and II, freshman and sophomore years in convent school, continues to be useful.
I only hear Kewpon here in the south. Coo pon is a yankee recitation.
I "Googled" it and this is what I found:
An ellipsis (plural: ellipses)... See https://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/ellipses.asp
So, I think an ellipsis is a single 3 dot punctuation mark. There may be more than one used or not. If there are more than one then ellipses is the proper usage - isn't it?
Ed
Dec 16, 2019 14:42:01 #
Nancysc wrote:
The worst errors I see are in the local newspaper, but I was told that the first staff to be let go to cut expenses is the copy editor. BTW, it's "ellipses" not "ellipsis" as there are always more than one.... if you get my drift.
Latin I and II, freshman and sophomore years in convent school, continues to be useful.
I only hear Kewpon here in the south. Coo pon is a yankee recitation.
Latin I and II, freshman and sophomore years in convent school, continues to be useful.
I only hear Kewpon here in the south. Coo pon is a yankee recitation.
Dec 16, 2019 14:42:23 #
wrangler5
Loc: Missouri
[quote=Mi630]
Agreed, except when an author is trying to write the way a character sounds. Elmore Leonard was one of my favorites in this regard - a lot of his dialog was completely ungrammatically-correct (?) but you knew exactly how his speaker sounded when he talked. I suspect that's actually pretty hard to write, and keep consistent for each character throughout a novel.
Oh - and +1 for Eats, Shoots and Leaves. Perfectly delightful treatment of the importance of punctuation. Probably should be required reading each year in school from whatever year they start writing, through grade 12.
Ichiban365 wrote:
The error which really makes me cringe, because it shows a real lack of grammatical sense, is "I should of..", instead of "I should have", or "I would of..." It gives the impression that the writer never actually reads anything and knows t
Agreed, except when an author is trying to write the way a character sounds. Elmore Leonard was one of my favorites in this regard - a lot of his dialog was completely ungrammatically-correct (?) but you knew exactly how his speaker sounded when he talked. I suspect that's actually pretty hard to write, and keep consistent for each character throughout a novel.
Oh - and +1 for Eats, Shoots and Leaves. Perfectly delightful treatment of the importance of punctuation. Probably should be required reading each year in school from whatever year they start writing, through grade 12.
Dec 16, 2019 14:43:10 #
Dec 16, 2019 14:44:01 #
nicksr1125 wrote:
It's AS IF they're not teaching. . . .Not only misspelling words. How about using the wrong word aka: their, they're, there; two, to, too; etc. It's like they're not teaching grammar in school anymore.
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