daldds wrote:
I've got to complain to someone, so Hogs, you're they.
I'm old, which means my education often involved more memory and repetition and less of the thinking and problem solving kids are exposed at present. So, when sports announcers especially, and talking heads generally, use poor grammar, it grates. (Did anyone notice that I used "they" in the opening sentence? The verb "to be" requires the nominative case.)
My stepdaugher would call my sniping at poor grammar a "1st world problem." Sometimes she applies the term to me.
Yesterday I heard "very unique" and "totally perfect" broadcast to millions.
Hogs, for those of you who are not aware, unique and perfect cannot be modified to be more than they are. They can be modified to be less, such as almost unique or nearly perfect.
A few more words that signify the ultimate range are: incomparable, matchless, peerless, singly, singular, solely and unequalled.
Wow, do I feel better. You guys are incomparable.
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Is "correct" an ultimate range?
nicksr1125 wrote:
Not only misspelling words. How about using the wrong word aka: their, they're, there; two, to, too; etc. It's like they're not teaching grammar in school anymore.
If they are, they're not spending much time on it.
I, too, being a retired English teacher of forty years, cringe at some of today’s usage. However, folks, language, it is constantly a-changing. If it didn’t we’d still be speaking like the Puritans--or maybe even like the KJV version of the Bible or Chaucer. Have you tried him in the original dialect? I’ll be you don’t want to go back to any of those three usages and pronunciations.
As for some of those pronunciations, if one looks in a good dictionary he will find that there is often more than one acceptable pronunciation of a word. Just because we say it a certain way does not always mean that the other guy is wrong. Some of the British think we can’t talk properly, and some of us say the same thing about them. However, it’s the same language.
Cheers.
John N
Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
I've heard it said that American speak is more in tune with Old English than the current vernacular we use.
I keep harking back to it but the Actors and Craftspeople at Williamsburg did a good job in using older language
What wonderful rants. It's just a part of the decline of our educational system as a result of too much government.
I think we are all aware that change will happen. but I'm waiting for the day the name Smith is pronounced Jones.
jaymatt wrote:
I, too, being a retired English teacher of forty years, cringe at some of today’s usage. However, folks, language, it is constantly a-changing. If it didn’t we’d still be speaking like the Puritans--or maybe even like the KJV version of the Bible or Chaucer. Have you tried him in the original dialect? I’ll be you don’t want to go back to any of those three usages and pronunciations.
As for some of those pronunciations, if one looks in a good dictionary he will find that there is often more than one acceptable pronunciation of a word. Just because we say it a certain way does not always mean that the other guy is wrong. Some of the British think we can’t talk properly, and some of us say the same thing about them. However, it’s the same language.
Cheers.
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OK, one of my weaknesses is admitted. I don’t like improper punctuation or misspelling. I’m aware though of some linguistic variations as such tire or tyre depending on your nationality. But poor grammatical skills, etc rub me the wrong way. I was an A student in English and writing courses I guess because I took it seriously. We sometimes call our eldest daughter the grammar nazi. Not meaning to offend, just admitting I’m not perfect. Intriguing subject here. Good luck ya’ll.
Hang in there--it might happen someday.
My grammarian education started early. My parents, even though not college-educated, were sticklers for proper pronunciation, usage, definition, etc. We had a Webster's dictionary at the desk and my papers were always "fly specked" for everything. It didn't take too long to just do it right the first time, or at least ask, if I weren't sure. Mom and Dad never demeaned my efforts, but took my errors as a teaching opportunity.
All my grammar and English teachers were strict. When I was in the 7th grade, it seemed like all we did was to diagram sentences, and practice usage. Mrs. Laine laid the groundwork, and writing from then on, was more rote, which gave me time to understand meaning and context.
Yes, the legal profession is all about correct usage, etc. It has to be. A misspelling can result in a lost case or appeal.
Each & every is another 1 of the current grammatical errors.
For some reason I find the misuse of rain, rein and reign especially annoying, and am much more inclined to think the writer ignorant than when they get there, their and they're mixed up. Admittedly, some of it is abetted, if not nearly forced, by spell-checkers, which can be quite difficult to override sometimes. Still, it reflects poorly on the writer (not that many of them probably care.)
I remember when I was in 6th grade, if you said the word ain't. The lady teacher would personally confront you, and tell you to never, ever, say that word again. When I hear kids today say ain't. I reminds me of that teacher.
daldds wrote:
I've got to complain to someone, so Hogs, you're they.
I'm old, which means my education often involved more memory and repetition and less of the thinking and problem solving kids are exposed at present. So, when sports announcers especially, and talking heads generally, use poor grammar, it grates. (Did anyone notice that I used "they" in the opening sentence? The verb "to be" requires the nominative case.)
My stepdaugher would call my sniping at poor grammar a "1st world problem." Sometimes she applies the term to me.
Yesterday I heard "very unique" and "totally perfect" broadcast to millions.
Hogs, for those of you who are not aware, unique and perfect cannot be modified to be more than they are. They can be modified to be less, such as almost unique or nearly perfect.
A few more words that signify the ultimate range are: incomparable, matchless, peerless, singly, singular, solely and unequalled.
Wow, do I feel better. You guys are incomparable.
I've got to complain to someone, so Hogs, you're t... (
show quote)
I have always felt that way about the word "unique" but I never saw anyone else remark on it.
Then there's the old poem that I'm sure 1st appeared after spell checkers started appearing that goes: I have a spelling checker, it came with my PC . . . .
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