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Sep 7, 2012 19:46:47   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
Wendy2 wrote:
I had morning glories and always loved the color. But it died because it got old! That's what the nursery told me. But I remember the color well. If you don't mind, I did a little PP as well and brought it the color I remember and made it a bit sharper.

With your image I felt it might be slightly overexposed and lacked some contrast. But you did a good job!


Thank you Wendy2. You have done a beautiful job and I appreciate your input. Thanks again...Jan

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Sep 7, 2012 19:49:50   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
docrob wrote:
jan wrote:
Shot this image of the morning glory this morning with my old point and shoot camera. I set the camera to aperature priority used spot focus. Even though it was shot in jpeg I was able to edit the pic in camera raw using photoshop CS 3. Please feel free to crituque honestly, even if it is bad. I am trying hard to learn photography, thanks in advance. Jan


continue observing and photographing the morning glory - at different times of day - different lighting situations.
quote=jan Shot this image of the morning glory th... (show quote)


Thank you docrob. I will keep working until I get it right. I appreciate your advice...Jan

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Sep 7, 2012 19:55:28   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
Erv wrote:
jan wrote:
Erv wrote:
Jan
I tried adding just some definition and contrast and sharpened it a little, liked what I got. Maybe you are over thinking this. It is almost a great shot to start with. Don't over do it in post.:) Make it look like you saw it with yours eyes.
Erv


Thanks Erv, you are always so helpful. Will you post what you got so I can see it? Thanks again, you make it sound so simple...Jan

Hi Jan
I just did a simple PP on it. Hard to do not having seen the flower in person.:) Post is always nice to do and make it look pretty. I have my camera set so when I take a picture and I look at the back of the camera, it is very close to what I see.
I am not very good at post other than the simple things. But with your picture I just did small things to it. First I did a little
contrast and definition. Next I just did a little saturation and vibrancy. Then just sharpened it a little.
Some folks like brighter bolder colors. I just like to see the flower I was looking at. I just think you are trying to hard to be good.:) It will come and you will find how you like your pictures to look. Maybe mine will look over done to you or not poppy enough( Is Poppy a word? :) ) I guess I am saying enjoy the hobby! And after a year or so, go back and look at your work. It will make you smile.:) I went back and looked at mine, what a big laugh I had.:):)
Erv
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Hi Erv, well, you have pretty much summed me up correctly. You are right, I should not take it so seriously and simply enjoy the dance. Great wisdon and advice. Oh, I like what you have done with the photo. It does have pop. Nice. Thanks again Erv...Jan

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Sep 7, 2012 20:35:37   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...





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Sep 7, 2012 21:26:14   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...


Yours are the same color as mine and I am sure the ones in my backyard are native also, probably planted by the birds. I love the shade of blue they bloom in and they make a charming little pod to look at during the winter. Mine are very aggressive but I try to keep them contained to a trellis. Nice job on yours and the dew adds a lot of charm. I attached a pic of a seed pod for you to see. Thanks Screamin Scott...Jan



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Sep 7, 2012 21:56:29   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Wow, didn't know about the seed pod...I'll have to look for it...Thanks!

jan wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...


Yours are the same color as mine and I am sure the ones in my backyard are native also, probably planted by the birds. I love the shade of blue they bloom in and they make a charming little pod to look at during the winter. Mine are very aggressive but I try to keep them contained to a trellis. Nice job on yours and the dew adds a lot of charm. I attached a pic of a seed pod for you to see. Thanks Screamin Scott...Jan
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Sep 7, 2012 22:06:26   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Now that is a nice shot Jan!! Was it hard to do? :):):)
Erv
Sorry just had to do ti.:)

jan wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...


Yours are the same color as mine and I am sure the ones in my backyard are native also, probably planted by the birds. I love the shade of blue they bloom in and they make a charming little pod to look at during the winter. Mine are very aggressive but I try to keep them contained to a trellis. Nice job on yours and the dew adds a lot of charm. I attached a pic of a seed pod for you to see. Thanks Screamin Scott...Jan
quote=Screamin Scott Hope you don't think I'm hij... (show quote)

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Sep 7, 2012 22:12:43   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
Erv wrote:
Now that is a nice shot Jan!! Was it hard to do? :):):)
Erv
Sorry just had to do ti.:)

jan wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...


Yours are the same color as mine and I am sure the ones in my backyard are native also, probably planted by the birds. I love the shade of blue they bloom in and they make a charming little pod to look at during the winter. Mine are very aggressive but I try to keep them contained to a trellis. Nice job on yours and the dew adds a lot of charm. I attached a pic of a seed pod for you to see. Thanks Screamin Scott...Jan
quote=Screamin Scott Hope you don't think I'm hij... (show quote)
Now that is a nice shot Jan!! Was it hard to do? :... (show quote)


Hey thanks Erv! I used my DSLR camera for this shot. I think the seed pod is as unique as the flower. Appreciate your comment..take care. Jan

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Sep 7, 2012 22:40:56   #
Wendy2 Loc: California
 
jan wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...


Yours are the same color as mine and I am sure the ones in my backyard are native also, probably planted by the birds. I love the shade of blue they bloom in and they make a charming little pod to look at during the winter. Mine are very aggressive but I try to keep them contained to a trellis. Nice job on yours and the dew adds a lot of charm. I attached a pic of a seed pod for you to see. Thanks Screamin Scott...Jan
quote=Screamin Scott Hope you don't think I'm hij... (show quote)


That's just beautiful Jan!

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Sep 7, 2012 22:45:14   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
Wendy2 wrote:
jan wrote:
Screamin Scott wrote:
Hope you don't think I'm hijacking your thread, but I just saw my first native blue Morning Glories just the other morning & they were beautiful. The blooms don't last but a day or two at most it seems. I found mine out on the country road out behind my house. There was dew on it so that helps...BTW I liked yours as well, without the white frame lines that is...PS, take a misting bottle out with you next time...


Yours are the same color as mine and I am sure the ones in my backyard are native also, probably planted by the birds. I love the shade of blue they bloom in and they make a charming little pod to look at during the winter. Mine are very aggressive but I try to keep them contained to a trellis. Nice job on yours and the dew adds a lot of charm. I attached a pic of a seed pod for you to see. Thanks Screamin Scott...Jan
quote=Screamin Scott Hope you don't think I'm hij... (show quote)


That's just beautiful Jan!
quote=jan quote=Screamin Scott Hope you don't th... (show quote)


Thanks so much Wendy2. Nature holds so much beauty! Jan

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Sep 8, 2012 00:11:02   #
mooseeyes Loc: Sonora, California
 
Jan,

I like your image, as posted. . .complete with "stroke". I think you do too, or you would not have made the post. Once you start running around making changes to your vision of the image based upon the subjective opinions of others, your vision is no longer your vision. You now are a puppet of others who are using you to express their vision.

Stay true to yourself, and take the opinions of others with a grain of salt. . .after you have taken a look at what they have posted!

Nice image, well done.

Ken

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Sep 8, 2012 11:54:09   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
mooseeyes wrote:
Jan,

I like your image, as posted. . .complete with "stroke". I think you do too, or you would not have made the post. Once you start running around making changes to your vision of the image based upon the subjective opinions of others, your vision is no longer your vision. You now are a puppet of others who are using you to express their vision.

Stay true to yourself, and take the opinions of others with a grain of salt. . .after you have taken a look at what they have posted!

Nice image, well done.

Ken
Jan, br br I like your image, as posted. . .compl... (show quote)


Thanks so much Ken. I am in love with your advice and I will remember what you said. Thanks again, I really appreciate hearing that. Jan

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Sep 8, 2012 12:38:13   #
coco1964 Loc: Winsted Mn
 
jan wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
I did nothing with the photo but as others would suggest getting rid of the white box. That being said as I looked at your settings your lens mm was like 12.3 which would tell me that you did a quite a bit of cropping. The 1st thing that caught my eye was the soft focus on parts of the petals and the noise in the photograph. Might just be me but I'd re-shoot the flower and start over from the beginning rather than trying to fix the one you have. You've been given plenty of good advice, heed it and take it into consideration for your next shot..........
I did nothing with the photo but as others would s... (show quote)


Thank you Coco1964. In addition to the camera settings you were able to look at there was also a plus 2 lens attached to the camera's lens. Probably can't do quality close up photography with this camera, especially if I crop it. I attached another photo of this flower taken the same day. It is straight out of the camera and unedited. Let me know what you think. I really do appreciate your help. I took a peek at some of your work and it is excellent. Thanks much...Jan
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You're proably right about doing closeups with the P&S but if you have time go to the search button and look up threads about P&Ss. It was just on here the other day and there are some great shots on there. I do have a problem with my Nikon P100 when I try doing very much cropping to the shots. As for your last shot of the morning glory if you look at your histogram it's all the way to the left which leaves you with an underexposed photo which is exactly what you have. When I look at the shot you took with your DSLR it looks beautiful so I'm inclined to think it's not you but I do think it's you who needs to learn your P&S. Take a look at your histograms and with that camera (not fimilar with it) what it's true capabilities are. Obviously you have the eye for composition as shown by your initial shot now you just need to turn that eye into a good photo. Cameras do make a difference---I have stood in the middle of a large lake in Mn and taken the following photo with my Nikon P100 and a friend stood 10 feet away and her photo of the sky was totally blown out, she was shooting on auto and the camera didn't know what to do. The P100 is a bridge camera where I can change settings versus most P&Ss are limited. My only advice I can give you is look at your histogram, learn how to use it. and be careful of noise when trying to enlarge by cropping...........



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Sep 8, 2012 14:21:36   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
coco1964 wrote:
jan wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
I did nothing with the photo but as others would suggest getting rid of the white box. That being said as I looked at your settings your lens mm was like 12.3 which would tell me that you did a quite a bit of cropping. The 1st thing that caught my eye was the soft focus on parts of the petals and the noise in the photograph. Might just be me but I'd re-shoot the flower and start over from the beginning rather than trying to fix the one you have. You've been given plenty of good advice, heed it and take it into consideration for your next shot..........
I did nothing with the photo but as others would s... (show quote)


That is a nice photo you attached.

You are absolutely correct in that my photo is under exposed. I manually set the exposure to -0.7 and expected to be able to fix it in post production. Obviously not a good idea.

I am pretty sure my Sony DSC-H2 is considered to be a bridge camera also. It has a nice Carl Zeiss lens on it and I am able to change the settings, ISO, shutter speed, etc. When using that camera, I shoot in aperature priority as it does a better job than auto. It also has a manual setting but it is pretty lame so I don't mess with it. I thought about trying to fix the noise problem using gaussian blur just in the background, didn't work, obvious difference between fixed and unfixed areas.

I really appreciate all the information you have give to me. Thank you so much...Jan

Thank you Coco1964. In addition to the camera settings you were able to look at there was also a plus 2 lens attached to the camera's lens. Probably can't do quality close up photography with this camera, especially if I crop it. I attached another photo of this flower taken the same day. It is straight out of the camera and unedited. Let me know what you think. I really do appreciate your help. I took a peek at some of your work and it is excellent. Thanks much...Jan
quote=coco1964 I did nothing with the photo but a... (show quote)
You're proably right about doing closeups with the P&S but if you have time go to the search button and look up threads about P&Ss. It was just on here the other day and there are some great shots on there. I do have a problem with my Nikon P100 when I try doing very much cropping to the shots. As for your last shot of the morning glory if you look at your histogram it's all the way to the left which leaves you with an underexposed photo which is exactly what you have. When I look at the shot you took with your DSLR it looks beautiful so I'm inclined to think it's not you but I do think it's you who needs to learn your P&S. Take a look at your histograms and with that camera (not fimilar with it) what it's true capabilities are. Obviously you have the eye for composition as shown by your initial shot now you just need to turn that eye into a good photo. Cameras do make a difference---I have stood in the middle of a large lake in Mn and taken the following photo with my Nikon P100 and a friend stood 10 feet away and her photo of the sky was totally blown out, she was shooting on auto and the camera didn't know what to do. The P100 is a bridge camera where I can change settings versus most P&Ss are limited. My only advice I can give you is look at your histogram, learn how to use it. and be careful of noise when trying to enlarge by cropping...........
quote=jan quote=coco1964 I did nothing with the ... (show quote)

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Sep 8, 2012 15:24:35   #
jan Loc: Kansas City
 
coco1964 wrote:
jan wrote:
coco1964 wrote:
I did nothing with the photo but as others would suggest getting rid of the white box. That being said as I looked at your settings your lens mm was like 12.3 which would tell me that you did a quite a bit of cropping. The 1st thing that caught my eye was the soft focus on parts of the petals and the noise in the photograph. Might just be me but I'd re-shoot the flower and start over from the beginning rather than trying to fix the one you have. You've been given plenty of good advice, heed it and take it into consideration for your next shot..........
I did nothing with the photo but as others would s... (show quote)


Thank you Coco1964. In addition to the camera settings you were able to look at there was also a plus 2 lens attached to the camera's lens. Probably can't do quality close up photography with this camera, especially if I crop it. I attached another photo of this flower taken the same day. It is straight out of the camera and unedited. Let me know what you think. I really do appreciate your help. I took a peek at some of your work and it is excellent. Thanks much...Jan
quote=coco1964 I did nothing with the photo but a... (show quote)
You're proably right about doing closeups with the P&S but if you have time go to the search button and look up threads about P&Ss. It was just on here the other day and there are some great shots on there. I do have a problem with my Nikon P100 when I try doing very much cropping to the shots. As for your last shot of the morning glory if you look at your histogram it's all the way to the left which leaves you with an underexposed photo which is exactly what you have. When I look at the shot you took with your DSLR it looks beautiful so I'm inclined to think it's not you but I do think it's you who needs to learn your P&S. Take a look at your histograms and with that camera (not fimilar with it) what it's true capabilities are. Obviously you have the eye for composition as shown by your initial shot now you just need to turn that eye into a good photo. Cameras do make a difference---I have stood in the middle of a large lake in Mn and taken the following photo with my Nikon P100 and a friend stood 10 feet away and her photo of the sky was totally blown out, she was shooting on auto and the camera didn't know what to do. The P100 is a bridge camera where I can change settings versus most P&Ss are limited. My only advice I can give you is look at your histogram, learn how to use it. and be careful of noise when trying to enlarge by cropping...........
quote=jan quote=coco1964 I did nothing with the ... (show quote)


That is a nice photo you attached.

You are absolutely correct in that my photo is under exposed. I manually set the exposure to -0.7 and expected to be able to fix it in post production. Obviously not a good idea.

I am pretty sure my Sony DSC-H2 is considered to be a bridge camera also. It has a nice Carl Zeiss lens on it and I am able to change the settings, ISO, shutter speed, etc. When using that camera, I shoot in aperature priority as it does a better job than auto. It also has a manual setting but it is pretty lame so I don't mess with it. I thought about trying to fix the noise problem using gaussian blur just in the background, didn't work, obvious difference between fixed and unfixed areas.

I really appreciate all the information you have given to me. Thank you so much...Jan

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