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Dec 2, 2019 06:09:10   #
CO
 
billnikon wrote:
My first rule of photography is never buy the first camera in a line of camera's.
My second rule is that you can't beat the 3rd generation of a camera line. (hint, hint, hint, D850)


They would need to improve the autofocus performance of the Z series camera a lot before I will purchase. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd generation Z series cameras will have better AF performance.

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Dec 2, 2019 06:13:43   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
CO wrote:
They would need to improve the autofocus performance of the Z series camera a lot before I will purchase. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd generation Z series cameras will have better AF performance.


exactly

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Dec 2, 2019 06:43:20   #
twice_shooter
 
The D850 is just a better camera than the Z7. No question I would choose it over the Z in a heartbeat. Unless you have a hankering to “go mirrorless” of course.

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Dec 2, 2019 06:54:18   #
BboH Loc: Catonsville, MD, USA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
As a dedicated Nikon shooter, I have to admit the "Z" line is going nowhere. Released in 2018, Nikon's lens releases are taking too long and no 3rd party lens manufacturers have announced compatible lenses. Contrast this to the Canon EOS-R, SIgma has just announced compatible "R" lenses are in the pipeline.

I'd go with the D850, you already have full-frame "F" glass, and the capabilities of the D850 are incredible.


The 850 doesn't need full frame, FX, glass - it adapts nicely to crop frame, DX glass.

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Dec 2, 2019 10:53:46   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
If the D800 is not doing the job or if it lacks the features you need in your photography it is time to update. Time to update also if it is failing and the repairs are expensive.

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Dec 2, 2019 11:20:59   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'd go with the D850. It's a fantastic camera. Yes, I do use one.
--Bob
royobrett wrote:
I'm contemplating upgrading my D800 to either the D850 or the Z7 and I'm having a problem deciding.
I like the flip screen on the 850 which would save my knees while shooting cars.
It would look to me that the Z7 is going to be more expensive: ie cards, batteries, lens adapter, sub base etc.
Any suggestions?

And why should I change?
No filter like the 810?

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Dec 2, 2019 11:40:59   #
photoman43
 
I just bought a D850 for most of the reasons already posted by others: I already have the lenses for it; its a proven winner and a very capable camera; and its buffer is properly sized to meet my needs; and its viewfinder has no delays. (I shoot mostly nature and landscapes.)

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Dec 2, 2019 11:59:33   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
As a dedicated Nikon shooter, I have to admit the "Z" line is going nowhere. Released in 2018, Nikon's lens releases are taking too long and no 3rd party lens manufacturers have announced compatible lenses. Contrast this to the Canon EOS-R, SIgma has just announced compatible "R" lenses are in the pipeline.

I'd go with the D850, you already have full-frame "F" glass, and the capabilities of the D850 are incredible.


I would agree that the OP would be better served by the D850 but I would disagree strongly that the 'Z' line is going nowhere. It's much lighter and the S lenses are very good, at least the two I own. I also suspect there will be third party lenses in the future. I believe someone is making a Sony to Nikon Z adapter already. I have had a Z6 for a couple of months and have used it successfully on a dozen assignments. Not much use, IMHO, for sports work. Best of luck.

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Dec 2, 2019 12:01:11   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
I have a D800, and it is a really nice camera, but I bought a D850 for the higher pixel density and, most especially, for the AF system. Many say the D850 is the best dslr ever made. Nikon attempted to make the mirrorless version of the D850 with the Z7, but honest reviews will tell you that they didn't quite pull it off even though the Z7 is a solid camera. The good thing is that you can use your current glass on either the D850 or Z7, but with an adapter for the Z7.

Honestly, if I were in your situation, I'd probably sell my Nikon gear and go with the Sony A7R4. IMHO, Nikon has lost their way and it is not clear if they will be able to recover. Sony is not only making innovative camera bodies, but some of the best rated glass out there. If you are going to stay with Nikon, I'd wait another year and see what their next gen mirrorless bodies look like.

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Dec 2, 2019 12:49:34   #
ralfstinson Loc: SF Bay Area
 
The number of camera's you should have is N+1 and the number of lenses is L+1. N is the number of camera you have now, and L is the number of Lenses you have now.

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Dec 2, 2019 13:13:06   #
Factotum
 
Here is how i solved the ‘knee problem’ when shooting low angles. I made a bracket to attach the camera to an extendable painters pole, fashioned a mirror and sighting tube, and attached a remote shutter release. It looks a little strange but I like it better than knee pads. At least I don’t have to bend down and try to get back up.
Not as good as a new camera but it might buy you some time.


(Download)


(Download)

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Dec 2, 2019 13:38:10   #
Lucius Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
The extra mega pixels with the 850 let me crop and picture is still sharp. There a lot of times I can not get in the right positon for the picture, but croping helps.

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Dec 2, 2019 13:40:43   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Factotum wrote:
Here is how i solved the ‘knee problem’ when shooting low angles. I made a bracket to attach the camera to an extendable painters pole, fashioned a mirror and sighting tube, and attached a remote shutter release. It looks a little strange but I like it better than knee pads. At least I don’t have to bend down and try to get back up.
Not as good as a new camera but it might buy you some time.


That's pretty cool!

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Dec 2, 2019 14:11:33   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
BboH wrote:
The 850 doesn't need full frame, FX, glass - it adapts nicely to crop frame, DX glass.


It is true that you can mount a DX lens on the D850, but you loose a lot of pixels doing it. So, the question is, why would you buy a 40+ meg camera and put a lens on it that would take away many of those meg's?

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Dec 2, 2019 14:23:40   #
Fotoartist Loc: Pleasant Ridge, Michigan
 
First of all we are talking about different systems, DSLR vs. Mirrorless. Mirrorless is the future but that could be years down the road. If you were young and just starting out seriously now you probably should get into mirrorless. However, if you are older and have a large investment in DSLR equipment I don't think I would advise going entirely mirrorless. Life is too short to reconfigure a system if it's not broken.

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