Retina wrote:
That today's full frame was yesterday's small format comes up often. The technologies are so different that new uses of old terms can be misleading when used out of context. If the term full frame was ever used with regard to film, it was not likely by photographers bragging about the size of their 1x1.5 inch negatives trying to separate themselves from hoards of the unadventurous snapshooters stuck in their half-frame bodies.
It's more likely a photographer bragged about his half frame that can shoot 72 frames on 1 roll. The full frame 35mm was the norm so the half frame guy had more or a bragging right.
will47 wrote:
If given the choice what is better for macro photograhy, or is there a difference? 90D or 6D Mark ll. Thanks.
I think it depends on the lens options and the situation. The crop sensor will give you more working distance. Put the images side by side and it would take serious pixel peeping to see the difference.
Dalek wrote:
My cousin lived in the trailer next to me. For some reason she was off limits for dating.
De rigeur for royalty; otherwise, it depends on local law and/or custom
I have one set of cousins who are first cousins on our mothers' side (mom and auntie Em are sisters) and first cousins once removed on our fathers' side (Auntie Em married my grand-dad's youngest brother, thus my dad's youngest uncle). 'Dating' among that particular set of cousins would have been wildly unsound genetically, unless, of course, we were all Ptolemys
xt2
Loc: British Columbia, Canada
CHG_CANON wrote:
Diligence is the mother of good luck. Having a cropped-sensor camera is like dating your cousin.
Are cropped sensors that bad?
Cheers!
The 32.5MP APS-C crop 90D will have the advantage in most cases.
The 26MP full frame 6D Mark II would only be an advantage if you....
....need to use very high ISO for some reason. 6D Mark II's considerably less "crowded" sensor will be able to shoot at higher ISO before heat gain and cross talk cause noise problems in images. I haven't seen DXO tests of the 90D yet, it's too new.... but I have little doubt the 6DII will have higher usable ISO. But, shooting macro, you're not likely to need super high ISO very often. With any camera, shooting macro you would be better served either using longer exposure when the subject allows, with a tripod if necessary, and/or using flash to illuminate the subject.
....or if you will be making very big enlargements from the images. In that case, the 6DII's images that need less magnification have the potential to hold up better. However, you probably won't see much difference until you make prints larger than 13x19".
If you are going to go to the trouble of "full frame", I'd opt for a higher resolution camera than the 6DII. Canon 5D Mark IV with 30MP or 5DS-R with 50MP would make more sense. (The 5DS-R has very limited high ISO, by the way.)
But if you're going to spend this kind of money for a special use camera, why stop with "full frame"? You might want to consider going even bigger with a medium format digital camera. It used to be that this next step up in sensor size was cost-prohibitive, but prices have come way, way down in recent years. Fuji, Mamiya, Pentax and even Hasselblad are all now offering moderately priced MF digital. Sure, these are a bit more expensive than a Canon or Nikon full frame camera... but not all that much more.
A 50MP Canon 5DS-R body costs $3699 and a Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L IS USM lens is currently on sale for $699 (normally $900), plus $172 for the separately sold Tripod Ring D.... $4570
A 50MP Fuji GFX body currently costs $4000 and the Fuji GF 120mm f/4 Macro OIS WR lens is on sale for $2200 (normally $2700).... $6200.
Used to be that MF cameras cost as much as a new car (and some still do). But prices have come down considerably, at the same time performance has improved.
will47 wrote:
If given the choice what is better for macro photograhy, or is there a difference? 90D or 6D Mark ll. Thanks.
I can only speak for myself on this question and for me it would depend on the working distance between me and the subject matter I was shooting and thereby the lens I would choose to employ . I seldom use a macro lens and prefer a telephoto instead as it allows me the privilege of getting the shot without frightening the small creature away and I don't have to sacrifice my depth of field as I sometimes do with the Macro Glass .
And I usually choose the FF over the crop.....more pixels & better low-light advantages. I will still crop in post but it just gives me more to play with in the longer scheme of things and the ISO appears to be more tolerant in FF than my cropper when I am forced to go high with it.
I realize that this is not true macro for some and I apologize for my transgressions but I do use Macro and on occasion , extension rings and whatever I deem appropriate for the shoot.
Lighting is also a consideration as well as a tripod and even a tethered tablet if I really want to amp-it-up. I will even employ the in-camera picture styles that allow for some nice close-ups that I would classify as a Macro version. I don't know how they actually do this but I love the results even if it's a manufactured creation and not my own design.
Hopefully someone here has a better explanation and the right answer to your original question.
I have both a full frame and a crop sensor, (Canon 6D and 7D). The problem I have with full frame is, when I use wide angle lenses there is too much vignetting. So, when I shoot wide angle I can only use crop sensor. Is there any way I can effectively shoot wide angle on full frame?
TriX
Loc: Raleigh, NC
pdsilen wrote:
I have both a full frame and a crop sensor, (Canon 6D and 7D). The problem I have with full frame is, when I use wide angle lenses there is too much vignetting. So, when I shoot wide angle I can only use crop sensor. Is there any way I can effectively shoot wide angle on full frame?
If you are using good FF lenses, with either the proper or no hood, and a thin filter (if you use one for this application), and use the appropriate lens correction (either in-Camera or in post processing) vignetting should not be noticeable. I shoot my 17-40L (with the correct hood) at 17mm on my FF, and there is no noticeable vignetting. A better question might be: why use an ultra wide for macro work?
CHG_CANON wrote:
Diligence is the mother of good luck. Having a cropped-sensor camera is like dating your cousin.
Now that is an interesting take on Crop Sensor Cameras. I'm very fond of my Canon 5D Mark IV. It does nice in sunlight and dark venues. I'm not a complainer
CHG_CANON wrote:
Diligence is the mother of good luck. Having a cropped-sensor camera is like dating your cousin.
Well, CHG-CANON, another obnoxious offensive comment on crop-sensor users. You don't learn, do you?
Boone
Loc: Groundhog Town USA
nadelewitz wrote:
Well, CHG-CANON, another obnoxious offensive comment on crop-sensor users. You don't learn, do you?
If you read, and more importantly
believed, the comments from
sippyjug104 and
amfoto1 (and others) on this thread, you'd realize you don't know anything, and certainly not the first thing about me. Instead, now we all know you have anxiety issues about both your spouse and your camera. Sad.
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you read, and more importantly believed, the comments from sippyjug104 and amfoto1 (and others) on this thread, you'd realize you don't know anything, and certainly not the first thing about me. Instead, now we all know you have anxiety issues about both your spouse and your camera. Sad.
Well, since you have me on your "ignore" list, I can't send you a private message. So here goes:
Why do you have to (try to) ridicule people who don't share your equipment usage and preferences? What I know about you is what I see on UHH, and it is that you are obnoxious and a jerk.
Anxiety about my spouse and my camera? You prove your mindlessness more and more.
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