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Nov 24, 2019 06:57:45   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
will47 wrote:
If given the choice what is better for macro photograhy, or is there a difference? 90D or 6D Mark ll. Thanks.


Full frame is the way to go, no cropping necessary. Get as close as you want with the macro lens.

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Nov 24, 2019 07:08:23   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
When using a FF 24MP D600 and a DX 24MP D7200 I choose the D600 for the final images. The full frame gave a bit more cleaner resolution. I usually shoot at 2:1 so I fill the frame with both cameras. There is no issue with ISO as with flash you shoot between ISO 200 and lower. That said, it's all about technic, especially flash diffusion. If your pictures are just OK with a DX camera they will Not improve with a FF camera..........

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Nov 24, 2019 07:08:45   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

or your sister.
--Bob
CHG_CANON wrote:
Diligence is the mother of good luck. Having a cropped-sensor camera is like dating your cousin.

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Nov 24, 2019 07:18:01   #
SteveG Loc: Norh Carolina
 
mrpentaxk5ii wrote:
Sound's like some thing A.O.C would say.

OH God, anyone but her in the conversation! Lol! What a..............!

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Nov 24, 2019 07:22:51   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Diligence is the mother of good luck. Having a cropped-sensor camera is like dating your cousin.


I had a very hot cousin.

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Nov 24, 2019 07:29:31   #
SteveG Loc: Norh Carolina
 
berchman wrote:
I had a very hot cousin.

I had one, but it's still your cousin

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Nov 24, 2019 07:49:22   #
SteveG Loc: Norh Carolina
 
will47 wrote:
If given the choice what is better for macro photograhy, or is there a difference? 90D or 6D Mark ll. Thanks.


I have had both and I prefer full frame with all my shots. I just get that little extra all around in image quality from my full frame. As long as you have the right focal length to start, or move in to your subject more if need be, then full frame gives me a little nicer results.

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Nov 24, 2019 08:03:34   #
will47 Loc: Indianapolis, IN
 
SteveG wrote:
I had one, but it's still your cousin


It's all relative.

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Nov 24, 2019 08:27:59   #
Cheetah34 Loc: Virginia Beach
 
A better analogy is "taking a shower with your sister "

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Nov 24, 2019 09:04:29   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
In my experience a macro lens because of the "digital factor" will have a longer working distance with a cropped body. I have nothing against that.

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Nov 24, 2019 09:06:18   #
Canisdirus
 
Canon 90D is the clear winner in this race.

If you crop the 6DMII to aspc image size ... you end up with a 10mp image (about).
You retain the 32MP from the 90D with the same FOV.

Cropping FF images can be as good, but you'll need to start with a much higher MP sensor than the 6D's 26 MP sensor.

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Nov 24, 2019 09:09:56   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
I shoot macro and micro focus stacking sessions nearly every day. I believe it is far more about the lens and magnification technique than it is about the sensor of the camera. I adjust the combination of lens, extension tubes, helicoid, or bellows that I use to fill the frame with the subject. Lighting and how to diffuse it softly is very important to creating a pleasing image. I shoot with my lenses (and combination of lenses in series) mounted in reverse so when shooting at higher magnifications the 'apparent f/stop' is based on what the subject sees which is different than what the camera lens f/stop dial is set at. For example when I use my 28mm lens coupled to a reverse mounted magnifying lens mounted on 68mm of extension tubes to achieve an 8-power magnification my f/5.6 setting produces an apparent f/64 which is again why lighting plays an important part for increasing ISO creates very noisy images.

When I'm in the field shooting macro to me it's about the distance from the subject and having enough distance to get the off-camera flash close enough yet not to frighten the subject although I've yet to scare away a wildflower.

When it comes to cropping an image, pixels in the area of non-interest are 'thrown away' and what remains is resized so to those who may crop their images in post, a full frame sensor would be a better choice to avoid pixelation and digital noise.

Of course processing the images for print is much different than to display on-screen or to share via the internet.

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Nov 24, 2019 09:12:04   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You haven't seen my cousin!


And you apparently have never experienced the benefits of dating a raring to go distant cousin.

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Nov 24, 2019 09:12:07   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Cheetah34 wrote:
A better analogy is "taking a shower with your sister "


What if your sister is Christina Hendricks?

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Nov 24, 2019 09:18:27   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
BebuLamar wrote:
And yet I can bet that you at one time owned a cropped sensor camera.


And I think we are ALL forgetting, again, that in film days everybody and his brother was using a "full frame" camera. It was called a 35mm. I had to go to medium format film to get out of every one's path.

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