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Nov 12, 2019 08:19:27   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Russia/Trump collusion= A YUGE swing and a miss.


What is it about the taste of this man's excrement that you like so much?

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Nov 12, 2019 09:09:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Alafoto wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-request-to-have-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-despite-sixth-amendment-guarantee?utm_campaign=ben_shapiro_report&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_in

It’s known as the Confrontation Clause; the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution says that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right… to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”

Due process? Who cares? Not the Democ****es, obviously.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-... (show quote)




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Nov 12, 2019 09:09:33   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
LWW wrote:
Read a book.



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Nov 12, 2019 09:10:32   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Frank T wrote:
Really?
What witnesses did Clinton get to call, or Johnson for that matter?
How about Nixon?
As to bias? Yes, I've seen the crimes committed in real-time and heard the President and his minions confess to the crimes multiple times. Then there's Volume II of the Mueller Report, which I know you didn't read but it details five instances of Obstruction of Justice.
So, am I bias? You bet I am.


Nixon was not impeached.

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Nov 12, 2019 09:13:49   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Nixon was not impeached.


News Flash!!!!
Trump hasn't been impeached.
Yet.
He'll get to call witnesses at the trial in the Senate.
Read a book.

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Nov 12, 2019 09:17:34   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Frank T wrote:
News Flash!!!!
Trump hasn't been impeached.
Yet.
He'll get to call witnesses at the trial in the Senate.
Read a book.


Why mention Nixon then?
PS why is the intelligence committee involved and not the propr committee, judicial?

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Nov 12, 2019 09:36:27   #
Allie
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why mention Nixon then?
PS why is the intelligence committee involved and not the propr committee, judicial?


So? If they can prove that Trump violated the oath of his office, then he violated his oath of office. Republicans have no defense of Trump’s actions so they attack the process.

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Nov 12, 2019 09:52:15   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
sb wrote:
Not to mention that the house is following the rules established by the Republicans when they impeached Clinton.


No they are not, read a book.

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Nov 12, 2019 10:03:51   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
RixPix wrote:
Impeachment is not a criminal process. Maybe you should actually read the Constitution completely instead copying something from a biased site written by another internet genius like yourself.


I've always suspected that I'm a genius. Thank you for confirming it.

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Nov 12, 2019 10:17:38   #
Bill 45
 
For people who those people who think you known who in the WH can do no wrong. That what this whole impeached is all about . Did he or did he not broke the law. Let find out. What is it that Trump is fighting to stop from finding out if he did broke the law or not.

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Nov 12, 2019 10:22:57   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
Really?
What witnesses did Clinton get to call, or Johnson for that matter?
How about Nixon?
As to bias? Yes, I've seen the crimes committed in real-time and heard the President and his minions confess to the crimes multiple times. Then there's Volume II of the Mueller Report, which I know you didn't read but it details five instances of Obstruction of Justice.
So, am I bias? You bet I am.


francine forgive me for the interruption but it is BIASED not BIAS. You will thank me later.

Dennis

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Nov 12, 2019 10:25:06   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
WNYShooter wrote:
You have this wrong, the Dems control the House and the House rules by majority on pretty much everything, so they can really make wh**ever rules they want, whenever they want--exactly what Schift and company are doing. They have the v**es and they will end up impeaching him.

They are doing this purely for two reasons; one, to reverse the will of the people in the last e******n and hopefully damage him for the next, and two, to get even with Trump for Clinton, and the Repubs for impeaching Clinton. Remember, the Dems and their career Gov employee cohorts started planning to impeach him the day he stomped Clinton in the e******n.

The thing is though, just like Clinton, he won't be convicted in the Senate, Dems don't have the numbers and they really don't have any real simple to understand, clear cut crime they can point to. In Clinton's case it was easy, the court charges were well known and right there for everyone to see. Also there's the fact that the Senate doesn't even have to actually accept the charges sent from the House--like the House, they also can make their own rules up as they go.

So what happens in the end if the Dems proceed? Just like Clinton, the Dems will brag that they Impeached Trump, and Trump will be able to brag that since it was completely partisan and over bulls**t alegations, he was found not Guilty on all charges. So then the real questions we all have to ask ourselves; was it worth it? What did all of that wasted time and effort to impeach actually accomplish?

In my eyes, all the Dems have accomplished in the last year, and will in the next will be to not get anything done for our country, nothing to address the actual wants and needs of the people who sent them there to run our country. And no matter the politician or party, they will blame it all on the other, taking no responsibility their self. More sadly, the next e******n, the majority of groupthink v**ers will go into the booth, look for the D or R line, and v**e right down it without even looking at the actual candidates.
You have this wrong, the Dems control the House an... (show quote)




Well said and true.

Dennis

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Nov 12, 2019 10:25:14   #
FrumCA
 
Frank T wrote:
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings in the House are like the Grand Jury indictment. You don't get to submit evidence if you're the accused. They merely decide if they have enough evidence to "hold him over for trial". He will, however, get to have his own witnesses in the Senate where the actual trial takes place.
This is how the criminal justice system and the Impeachment procedures work.
In the Senate, you'll have the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. I'm sure he will be able to tell what's constitutional much better than you and your friends at the bar.

Funny how when the Trump sycophants can't explain his crimes, they attack the process.
A swing and a miss.
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings i... (show quote)

Yes. And the hearings, like a Grand Jury, should not be releasing (aka leaking) some of the testimony against Trump. Given that Schiff has permitted that and is most likely the key leaker, the president is logically demanding the opportunity to refute it. Funny how you and yours don't attack the leaks.

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Nov 12, 2019 10:30:41   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Allie wrote:
So? If they can prove that Trump violated the oath of his office, then he violated his oath of office. Republicans have no defense of Trump’s actions so they attack the process.


Golly when you put it that way can't it be easily proven that Democrats in Congress have violated their oath of office to support and defend the Constitution. There is Federal law that prohibits people from other countries from entering the United States without proper permission so to speak. And yet Democrats pretty much all of them have literally invited i*****l a***ns to cross our border and have then aided and abetted them with sanctuary cities. Is that not violating THEIR oath of office? And yet Liberals continue to support these politicians.

Dennis

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Nov 12, 2019 10:34:20   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bill 45 wrote:
For people who those people who think you known who in the WH can do no wrong. That what this whole impeached is all about . Did he or did he not broke the law. Let find out. What is it that Trump is fighting to stop from finding out if he did broke the law or not.


My friend I can't even understand your first sentence let alone try to understand the rest of it.

If I understand you correctly President Trump has a legal right to protect himself and his administration according to the Constitution as well as common sense. He is an American citizen and as such can use what means necessary in his defense against Liberals who so far have absolutely no evidence except for whole bunch of them TELLING us that Trump is guilty. Thankfully this is America and we do not accept rule by a mob. We deal with actual evidence. Sorry you on the Left seem to forget that when Conservatives are in your crosshairs.

Dennis

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