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Nov 11, 2019 09:15:02   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-request-to-have-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-despite-sixth-amendment-guarantee?utm_campaign=ben_shapiro_report&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_in

It’s known as the Confrontation Clause; the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution says that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right… to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”

Due process? Who cares? Not the Democ****es, obviously.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:19:31   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings in the House are like the Grand Jury indictment. You don't get to submit evidence if you're the accused. They merely decide if they have enough evidence to "hold him over for trial". He will, however, get to have his own witnesses in the Senate where the actual trial takes place.
This is how the criminal justice system and the Impeachment procedures work.
In the Senate, you'll have the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. I'm sure he will be able to tell what's constitutional much better than you and your friends at the bar.

Funny how when the Trump sycophants can't explain his crimes, they attack the process.
A swing and a miss.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:22:32   #
EyeSawYou
 
Frank T wrote:
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings in the House are like the Grand Jury indictment. You don't get to submit evidence if you're the accused. They merely decide if they have enough evidence to "hold him over for trial". He will, however, get to have his own witnesses in the Senate where the actual trial takes place.
This is how the criminal justice system and the Impeachment procedures work.
In the Senate, you'll have the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. I'm sure he will be able to tell what's constitutional much better than you and your friends at the bar.

Funny how when the Trump sycophants can't explain his crimes, they attack the process.
A swing and a miss.
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings i... (show quote)


Russia/Trump collusion= A YUGE swing and a miss.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:24:30   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Frank T wrote:
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings in the House are like the Grand Jury indictment. You don't get to submit evidence if you're the accused. They merely decide if they have enough evidence to "hold him over for trial". He will, however, get to have his own witnesses in the Senate where the actual trial takes place.
This is how the criminal justice system and the Impeachment procedures work.
In the Senate, you'll have the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. I'm sure he will be able to tell what's constitutional much better than you and your friends at the bar.

Funny how when the Trump sycophants can't explain his crimes, they attack the process.
A swing and a miss.
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings i... (show quote)


Read a book.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:25:23   #
EyeSawYou
 
Alafoto wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-request-to-have-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-despite-sixth-amendment-guarantee?utm_campaign=ben_shapiro_report&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_in

It’s known as the Confrontation Clause; the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution says that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right… to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”

Due process? Who cares? Not the Democ****es, obviously.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-... (show quote)


One correction in that article, it says "Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Devin Nunes (D-CA)" Devin Nunes is a Republican from CA not a Democrat, he's too smart to be a Democrat.

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Nov 11, 2019 09:31:16   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
your phrase---Like a grand jury indictment" Betrays your bias It is NOT an indictment, it's an impeachment. The rules are different.In no past impeachment proceding has a president been NOTmallowed to call witnesses TYHe democrats must be afraid of witnesses

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Nov 11, 2019 09:41:49   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
boberic wrote:
your phrase---Like a grand jury indictment" Betrays your bias It is NOT an indictment, it's an impeachment. The rules are different.In no past impeachment proceding has a president been NOTmallowed to call witnesses TYHe democrats must be afraid of witnesses




Really?
What witnesses did Clinton get to call, or Johnson for that matter?
How about Nixon?
As to bias? Yes, I've seen the crimes committed in real-time and heard the President and his minions confess to the crimes multiple times. Then there's Volume II of the Mueller Report, which I know you didn't read but it details five instances of Obstruction of Justice.
So, am I bias? You bet I am.

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Nov 11, 2019 22:35:18   #
Kalskag2
 
I wasn't aware that any criminal charges are pending against Trump, although I understand why you think there should be. Also, I guess you don't understand the reasons for anonymity for whistleblowers. Sad.

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Nov 11, 2019 23:41:41   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Alafoto wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-request-to-have-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-despite-sixth-amendment-guarantee?utm_campaign=ben_shapiro_report&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_in

It’s known as the Confrontation Clause; the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution says that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right… to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”

Due process? Who cares? Not the Democ****es, obviously.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-... (show quote)


Impeachment is not a criminal process. Maybe you should actually read the Constitution completely instead copying something from a biased site written by another internet genius like yourself.

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Nov 12, 2019 01:12:36   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
LWW wrote:
Read a book.


Most posters in The Attic are too busy thinking up "zingers" as retorts to take the time to read a book.

Clearly you are well read (ahem, cough, cough), so why not just give us the CliffsNotes version?

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Nov 12, 2019 05:13:05   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Alafoto wrote:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-request-to-have-ukraine-whistleblower-testify-despite-sixth-amendment-guarantee?utm_campaign=ben_shapiro_report&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_in

It’s known as the Confrontation Clause; the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution says that “in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right… to be confronted with the witnesses against him.”

Due process? Who cares? Not the Democ****es, obviously.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schiff-rejects-gop-... (show quote)


You have this wrong, the Dems control the House and the House rules by majority on pretty much everything, so they can really make wh**ever rules they want, whenever they want--exactly what Schift and company are doing. They have the v**es and they will end up impeaching him.

They are doing this purely for two reasons; one, to reverse the will of the people in the last e******n and hopefully damage him for the next, and two, to get even with Trump for Clinton, and the Repubs for impeaching Clinton. Remember, the Dems and their career Gov employee cohorts started planning to impeach him the day he stomped Clinton in the e******n.

The thing is though, just like Clinton, he won't be convicted in the Senate, Dems don't have the numbers and they really don't have any real simple to understand, clear cut crime they can point to. In Clinton's case it was easy, the court charges were well known and right there for everyone to see. Also there's the fact that the Senate doesn't even have to actually accept the charges sent from the House--like the House, they also can make their own rules up as they go.

So what happens in the end if the Dems proceed? Just like Clinton, the Dems will brag that they Impeached Trump, and Trump will be able to brag that since it was completely partisan and over bulls**t alegations, he was found not Guilty on all charges. So then the real questions we all have to ask ourselves; was it worth it? What did all of that wasted time and effort to impeach actually accomplish?

In my eyes, all the Dems have accomplished in the last year, and will in the next will be to not get anything done for our country, nothing to address the actual wants and needs of the people who sent them there to run our country. And no matter the politician or party, they will blame it all on the other, taking no responsibility their self. More sadly, the next e******n, the majority of groupthink v**ers will go into the booth, look for the D or R line, and v**e right down it without even looking at the actual candidates.

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Nov 12, 2019 05:43:28   #
incognito
 
Recently heard that Adam Schiff has proof positive evidence against Trump. I think we all have heard that before. If he does then he should bring it out now and save the taxpayers money.

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Nov 12, 2019 05:50:48   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
LWW wrote:
Read a book.


No LWW, watch a movie, not as you say, read a book. "Treasure of Serra Madre." The classic "No Stinkin' Badges" clip from the Treasure of Sierra Madre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ

If you LWW were an American and not a Paid Russian Op you would have know that.

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Nov 12, 2019 06:27:45   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Frank T wrote:
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings in the House are like the Grand Jury indictment. You don't get to submit evidence if you're the accused. They merely decide if they have enough evidence to "hold him over for trial". He will, however, get to have his own witnesses in the Senate where the actual trial takes place.
This is how the criminal justice system and the Impeachment procedures work.
In the Senate, you'll have the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court presiding over the trial. I'm sure he will be able to tell what's constitutional much better than you and your friends at the bar.

Funny how when the Trump sycophants can't explain his crimes, they attack the process.
A swing and a miss.
I see you're a bit mixed up again. The hearings i... (show quote)


Not to mention that the house is following the rules established by the Republicans when they impeached Clinton.

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Nov 12, 2019 07:02:47   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
sb wrote:
Not to mention that the house is following the rules established by the Republicans when they impeached Clinton.


LOL, no they aren't, but it really doesn't matter at this point as the whole charade is meant for political theater, television coverage, all for calculated partisan political gain. The irony is that the so called impeachable offence the Dems are presenting is the claim that the President was seeking partisan political gain in his action. Of course, the Dems have their useful I***ts turned up to 11.

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