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Nov 11, 2019 20:43:12   #
WAstinkbug Loc: Silverdale, WA, U.S.A.
 
bsprague wrote:
You may not want my thoughts! You appear to be out of touch with today's highschool students. Based on personal experience with granddaughters doing the paper and year book, the the dominant workflow is with connected cameras called smart phones. Anything like a D7000 doesn't fit and could deem your granddaughter as an outcast in the social network. The team approach does not have one member on a Kawasaki road bike with the rest are peddling bicycles.

Secondly, if your granddaughter is interested in photography it will be her version of it. She needs to be picking out her tools, not taking your cast offs.

Social needs in that age group are intense. She is picking a group to join and fitting in can be precarious. Dangling a Nikon around her neck could be as strange as showing up wearing grandma's diamonds!
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As someone who never quite fit in and being the parent of children who ran with smart/gifted friends but not always the "fitting in with the masses" kinds of kids... I winced a bit when reading your comment. I think a lot depends on the personalities and preferences of the people involved... and maybe how much "fitting in" motivates them. Certainly, it's not worth pushing something at a high-schooler, but for all we know, she may be honored to have a beloved camera that was once her grandfather's (I think the poster was a grandpa). We don't really know their relationship or what type of photography she's drawn to. Offering a really nice camera she would have trouble paying for is generous. Even if she uses it on her own time (if she's pursuing photography) and not at school, she'll learn so much with such a nice setup ... and she'll learn to appreciate the high image quality of such a camera.

If she balks and wants something different... then I'd take her lead and just let her know the offer is open. What might be fun is to take her on a "shooting expedition" and let her use that camera while grandpa or grandma uses their newer one and is nearby to be a resource. Sweet memories. <3

Anyway... just my reaction to your reaction.

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Nov 11, 2019 21:00:33   #
CliftonAlvin
 
Z50, is a thought, I picked up a z6, and shot my 58mm using the adapter, until I picked up the 24-70 4s used, but honestly I still really like my D750, the kit lens is a 24-120 1.4, but I am thinking of trading it since I saw a D850 used. I like my Nikon z6 & D750. Don't know much about kids but give her the camera, take her to shoot, help her upgrade for her Bday! just a guy with a camera

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Nov 11, 2019 21:47:11   #
WAstinkbug Loc: Silverdale, WA, U.S.A.
 
digit-up wrote:
Normally, I would encourage folks for “ thinking so much”, giving great consideration to a SUBJECT, but you,Gessman, have a perverse imagination. Spend a bit more time in “silent meditation, you deep thinker you!!” RJM



I can see where at first glance it might hit that way, but it told me he's had a negative experience he might not have anticipated before it bit him. I think unless someone has been falsely accused or burned by someone else's hypervigilance ... they wouldn't have it on their radar... which I believe was his point.

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Nov 11, 2019 21:57:43   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
CO wrote:
You already have a D7100 with 80-400mm lens for wildlife. I don't see what you would be gaining by buying a D7500 with 18-140mm or 18-300mm lens.

If your 80-400mm lens is the first generation one with the screw drive autofocus, I can see upgrading that one. It had slow autofocus and was not good for continuous autofocus tracking. I have the newer AF-S version. It's worlds better than the first one. It has very fast autofocus and is excellent for continuous AF tracking.

A significant DX sensor upgrade would be a D500. The D5, D500, and D850 have Nikon's best autofocus system and are the first to have a processor dedicated to just the autofocus.
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Best response so far. I would probably go for the D850!

That’s a great gesture to share your love for photography with your granddaughter. I wish I would have had that opportunity with my grandfather. He did some amazing work in his own darkroom.

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Nov 11, 2019 22:05:35   #
Matt_F Loc: Wausau, Wisconsin
 
azted wrote:
It is not politics as much as it is marching to the drum of conformity. If young people are not open to different forms of taking photos, listening to music, hearing many sides of a topic, we are lost as a nation.


When you use the terms liberal or conservative you make it political and you used one of those words twice in your post.

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Nov 11, 2019 22:32:20   #
WAstinkbug Loc: Silverdale, WA, U.S.A.
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Contributers simply, honestly disagreed with you—that doesn’t make you a victim.
My grandson isn't in high school yet.



What a great picture!

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Nov 11, 2019 22:38:03   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
WAstinkbug wrote:
What a great picture!


Thank you.

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Nov 11, 2019 22:41:29   #
WAstinkbug Loc: Silverdale, WA, U.S.A.
 
azted wrote:
Given his location, that is what you can expect. The liberal west coast states of this country are filled with people who adhere to a strict guidance of following the social code. They are afraid to look out of place, and are limiting the growth of a healthy social policy. There is no room in their liberal mind set of seeing things in a different light. That is why he wants his granddaughter to be a follower, it is easier than standing out and being different. We should all feel sorry for this person's weakness, and stand strong in not allowing this feebleness to affect us!
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I live near the west coast as well. While it is true, Washington has been a blue state for a long time, it's not advisable or even correct to make such a broad generalization. I don't see the desire to fit in as a liberal or conservative issue anyway. I think it has more to do with personality style, family culture, etc. Anyway... that's just my two cents' worth.

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Nov 11, 2019 22:43:09   #
WAstinkbug Loc: Silverdale, WA, U.S.A.
 
Matt_F wrote:
Thanks for bringing politics into the discussion because that's exactly what I want to read about in a photography forum.



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Nov 11, 2019 22:45:29   #
WAstinkbug Loc: Silverdale, WA, U.S.A.
 
AndyH wrote:
I've read through all six pages of this thread. A lot of drivel and a lot of common sense.

We have nearly two dozen grands, acquired through birth, adoption, and marriage. Some of them are very interested in photography, some couldn't care less about it. All are equally valid viewpoints.

Encourage the ones who are interested, whether their interest is limited to capable phone cameras, digital cameras, or even <gasp!> film!

We have some of each, and we do what we can to encourage all of them who are interested, including particularly, sharing photos and videos of their activities and interests. I've given digital gear to those who would appreciate it, encouraged those whose photos are made with their cameras, and mentored all who have an interest in our art form in the ways that they will most appreciate. I'm not concerned at all about the "gifts with strings" thoughts expressed earlier - if you have established relationships of trust and love with your grandkids, an expensive gift will not have any effect at all.

We love our kids and grands, as, I'm sure, everyone in this thread does. I've always believed in encouraging your young'uns in whatever
interests them, whether it's sk8er videos or anthropology. If photography is among their interests, do whatever you can and it will be enough, but not too much.

Andy
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Well spoken, Andy! <3

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Nov 11, 2019 23:29:47   #
ollie Loc: Ogdensburg, NY
 
my intent is to replace a camera that I use in very hostile environments. If you've spent time deep sea fishing or on a hunting expedition 1000 miles from home you would know why I want to supplement my equipment when I switch out my "knock around" camera and lens with something a little newer. The 7100 will become my replacement for the 7000 and the 7500 for the 7100. I guess the real debate is if there is a reason not to change to the 18 - 300 lens. weight issues...?

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Nov 12, 2019 00:37:07   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
azted wrote:
Your post does not follow my train of thought. I am simply stating that he is rewarding conformity by telling the OP that he should not give a camera to his granddaughter because the other children use their phones. It is the small mindedness I am calling out. I do not care about political views as much as I am stating the obvious worshipping of conformity. If that bothers you, that is your problem.


I can’t know your train of thought, just your words. Your words indicated that you have a narrow-minded view that because someone has a progressive political viewpoint they think a certain way. And really when you come down to it my more liberal friends are the ones that celebrate diversity over conformity.

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Nov 12, 2019 01:29:42   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
ollie wrote:
Time for my granddaughter to get into photography ( on yearbook staff in high school) I'm going to give her my Nikon D7000 w/ 18 to 140 Nikon lens. Problem, what to replace it with ? I already have the D800 I use primarily for scenics and a D7100 w/ 80 - 400 for wildlife. The D7000 was my out in the woods hunting or out on the water fishing camera. I'm thinking of the D7500 w/ either an 18 - 140 or an 18 - 300. Thoughts ? from anyone with either combination of a better suggestion? thanks


Wow! A lot of heat with respect to your gifting the D7000 to your granddaughter. The funny thing is, I am doing exactly the same thing, i.e. giving my D7000 to my 14-year old granddaughter to use. You may be set with the D7100 and the D800. I agree that if you are going to upgrade, bypass the D7500 and go straight to the D500. Alternatively, spring for the D850 to replace the D800. Whatever you decide, I wish you luck.

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Nov 12, 2019 06:56:21   #
Silverrails
 
mas24 wrote:
Being on this forum, I have discovered some uhh members only have one camera, and some have many cameras and lenses. I own 3 cameras and a smartphone. None of them are pro level cameras, but none older than 4 years old. My next purchase will be another lens, not a new camera. Giving your granddaughter your D7000 and a lens was generous of you. If you want to replace your D7000, that replacement will not break the bank. I saw an ad for a refurbished D7500, not long ago, for $599. And that camera is better than the D7000, IMO. The D7000 has 16 megapixels. The D7500, has the same sensor as the D500, 20.9 megapixels. I hope your granddaughter does well with the D7000. Good luck.
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Just Curious, you mentioned the D7500 has 20.9 mp, why does my older model D3300 have, I think, have 24.3 mp?

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Nov 12, 2019 17:33:29   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
repleo wrote:
You still have two DSLRs. Why not try a mirrorless.


The new Nikon Z50 is now available. You’ll find the menus similar to what you are used to. Much cheaper and lighter than D500, and apparently same sensor.

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