Patton
Nov 11, 2019 10:34:36 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
Architect1776 wrote:
Democrats/libs h**e Trump for his mouth.
Good thing the current loser libs were not in charge in WWII.
Good thing the current loser libs were not in charge in WWII.
That's unlikely. D-Day went off pretty well without him. Also, remember, he wanted to attack the Russians at the close of WWII. And what did he contribute to the Pacific Theatre?
Nov 11, 2019 11:05:38 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Bazbo wrote:
That's unlikely. D-Day went off pretty well without him. Also, remember, he wanted to attack the Russians at the close of WWII. And what did he contribute to the Pacific Theatre?
Read a book.
D-Day was a success largely because the Germans were terrified of Patton and convinced that the invasion was coming at the Pas dr Calais because that’s where Patton was.
Nov 11, 2019 11:11:41 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
LWW wrote:
Read a book.
D-Day was a success largely because the Germans were terrified of Patton and convinced that the invasion was coming at the Pas dr Calais because that’s where Patton was.
D-Day was a success largely because the Germans were terrified of Patton and convinced that the invasion was coming at the Pas dr Calais because that’s where Patton was.
It is true that the germans feared him, but for D-Day he was only a diversion and only part of an elaborate diversion at that. Crediting him for the success of the operation is just silly and dishonors those who actually won the battle.
Read a book. Cite, if you can, any historian who claims that the D-Day success was "largely" due to Patton, as you assert.
Nov 11, 2019 11:29:09 #
General Patton too conferred with the gods. But he expressed his muse strictly by military means. He viewed victory in war as the glorious resolution of conflict. He went at this goal with all his being.
A couple of quotes from this great American soldier gives a flavor of his insight:
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
"If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
A couple of quotes from this great American soldier gives a flavor of his insight:
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
"If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."
Bill 45 wrote:
Patton as a field command-feet on the ground moving with the troops- he was the best we had. He understand the way the German war machine work, He use that information against the Germans. He knew his place in the Army, not like MacArthur, who though he was a god until a captain from Missouri show him the door.
Nov 11, 2019 11:41:16 #
Read this biography of General Patton to learn his direct involvement in support of the victory of the Allied Invasion of Normandy and more: "Patton: A Genius for War."
Military history tells us that Patton landed his forces also in North Africa, in Morocco.
This thumbnail of his military action, from Wikipedia, provides a starting point:
"George Smith Patton Jr. (November 11, 1885 – December 21, 1945) was a General of the United States Army who commanded the U.S. Seventh Army in the Mediterranean theater of World War II, and the U.S. Third Army in France and Germany following D-Day, the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944."
Military history tells us that Patton landed his forces also in North Africa, in Morocco.
This thumbnail of his military action, from Wikipedia, provides a starting point:
"George Smith Patton Jr. (November 11, 1885 – December 21, 1945) was a General of the United States Army who commanded the U.S. Seventh Army in the Mediterranean theater of World War II, and the U.S. Third Army in France and Germany following D-Day, the Allied invasion of Normandy in June 1944."
Bazbo wrote:
It is true that the germans feared him, but for D-Day he was only a diversion and only part of an elaborate diversion at that. Crediting him for the success of the operation is just silly and dishonors those who actually won the battle.
Read a book. Cite, if you can, any historian who claims that the D-Day success was "largely" due to Patton, as you assert.
Read a book. Cite, if you can, any historian who claims that the D-Day success was "largely" due to Patton, as you assert.
Nov 11, 2019 11:48:20 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
anotherview wrote:
Read this biography of General Patton to learn his... (show quote)
I don't know who you think you are arguing with. I never questioned Patton's tactical genius. Re-read my posts. Then respond.
Nov 11, 2019 11:50:57 #
No argument on my part. In this matter, I try to let facts speak for themselves. I replied to your post because handy -- no offense intended.
Bazbo wrote:
I don't know who you think you are arguing with. I never questioned Patton's tactical genius. Re-read my posts. Then respond.
Nov 11, 2019 11:52:14 #
Bazbo
Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
anotherview wrote:
No argument on my part. In this matter, I try to let facts speak for themselves. I replied to your post because handy -- no offense intended.
OK
Nov 11, 2019 12:41:44 #
Patton and Pas dr Calais was great military plan. No one get k**l and when D-day hit Germans did not belive that Normandy was it. Germans still belive that Patton and Pas dr Calais was the place every thing was going to happen. That gave time for the allies to get a troops into Normandy and get control. When the Germans put two and two together as to what was going on in Normandy it was too late.
Nov 11, 2019 12:46:58 #
That's about the size of it.
Bill 45 wrote:
Patton and Pas dr Calais was great military plan. No one get k**l and when D-day hit Germans did not belive that Normandy was it. Germans still belive that Patton and Pas dr Calais was the place every thing was going to happen. That gave time for the allies to get a troops into Normandy and get control. When the Germans put two and two together as to what was going on in Normandy it was too late.
Nov 11, 2019 13:59:25 #
Architect1776 wrote:
I served.
Did you?
Did you?
thommie serves now...at waffle house!!!
Nov 11, 2019 14:09:40 #
LWW
Loc: Banana Republic of America
Bazbo wrote:
It is true that the germans feared him, but for D-Day he was only a diversion and only part of an elaborate diversion at that. Crediting him for the success of the operation is just silly and dishonors those who actually won the battle.
Read a book. Cite, if you can, any historian who claims that the D-Day success was "largely" due to Patton, as you assert.
Read a book. Cite, if you can, any historian who claims that the D-Day success was "largely" due to Patton, as you assert.
https://fas.org/irp/agency/army/mipb/1996-2/meeks.htm
This makes two.
I never bluff.
Nov 11, 2019 14:12:28 #
thom w
Loc: San Jose, CA
LWW wrote:
Read a book.
D-Day was a success largely because the Germans were terrified of Patton and convinced that the invasion was coming at the Pas dr Calais because that’s where Patton was.
D-Day was a success largely because the Germans were terrified of Patton and convinced that the invasion was coming at the Pas dr Calais because that’s where Patton was.
There are lots of things the Germans didn’t get right. Patton was a very effective scare crow, or decoy if you will.
Nov 11, 2019 14:27:56 #
trainspotter
Loc: Oregon
thom w wrote:
Trump loves Trump, period.
WE don't CARE who President Trump "LOVES"......he gets the JOB DONE......(aka results)...which is WAY MORE then any democrats....(same as General Patton.....results).
PERIODNov 11, 2019 14:46:39 #
LWW wrote:
In the left’s defense, in WWII they do give us Neville Chamberlain ... a very nice fellow who almost got us all k**led.
Meanwhile an extremely unpopular, because of his gruff and rude nature Churchill saved the world.
Meanwhile an extremely unpopular, because of his gruff and rude nature Churchill saved the world.
What’s red and white and flies over the ocean.
— Lord Mountbatten’s tennis shoes.
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