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Oct 14, 2019 20:56:26   #
peter pat Loc: Miami Beach
 
Yes you are correct I was using diffuser pointed at subject due to shiny metallic gold black and silver ceiling.

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Oct 14, 2019 20:57:53   #
peter pat Loc: Miami Beach
 
Yes correct on ceiling, I did not bounce do to mettalic gold and silver with black lines on ceiling, did use diffuser on flash head.

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Oct 14, 2019 21:05:52   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
peter pat wrote:
Yes correct on ceiling, I did not bounce do to mettalic gold and silver with black lines on ceiling, did use diffuser on flash head.


Just curious - what kind of diffuser?

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Oct 14, 2019 21:06:52   #
peter pat Loc: Miami Beach
 
Dear Scruples,

Thanks for the encouragement I have a feeling that you know a lot about this type of work, in my case its my third wedding shoot although I have done a few engagements and usually portraits. I like your idea of bringing some film and was tempted to bring my mamiya 645..here is a stern shot I got in just after sunset.



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Oct 14, 2019 22:24:56   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
peter pat wrote:
Dear Scruples,

Thanks for the encouragement I have a feeling that you know a lot about this type of work, in my case its my third wedding shoot although I have done a few engagements and usually portraits. I like your idea of bringing some film and was tempted to bring my mamiya 645..here is a stern shot I got in just after sunset.


Good exposure but be careful when using a wide angle lens. I tends to distort the subject. But I understand the room constraints on a boat. There was a day when more than 50% of wedding photographers used a Rollie Twin Lens reflex. They were limited to a 75mm lens only. Any image is better than no image.

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Oct 15, 2019 07:02:03   #
Silverrails
 
peter pat wrote:
Hi everyone, I like reading the posts on ugly hedhehog but rarely post anything on it myself..anyways, I know there is tons of knowledge out there and am seeking some advice...

Recently I did a party wedding shoot on board a yacht. Lighting was challenging due to dark wooden walls, gold and silver metallic ceiling, lots of windows everywhere and flashing strobes and other colored lights..not exactly a studio environment.

Gear used two cameras set on auto iso 200-1600, d700 35-80 AF, and d7100 kit 17-55mm alternating with 50mm 1.8 full and DX on both bodies, flash yongnuo and insignia set at ttl, exposure comp at 0.
Flash gear not the best, kit lens not the best but all I can afford at this time.

Flash behaved erratically, most of the closeup images were acceptable but some required two or more tries...often first exposure was blown out, second exposure somewhat better.

Usually I would prefer to set flash on stands but rocking boat and party crowd is recipe for disaster, therefore flash mounted on camera.

Any ideas?
Hi everyone, I like reading the posts on ugly hedh... (show quote)


No advice, as I consider myself as a "Advanced Beginner" in DSLR Photography, still learning, that's why I'm here.
I have enjoyed hearing from a variety of Photographer's, I am Learning from other's more skilled and Experienced. Also, from other's errors and mistakes too.

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Oct 15, 2019 09:36:34   #
peter pat Loc: Miami Beach
 
I love the Rolle and although not a twin the Blad as well, they are silky smooth and well built. Dont own one but was lucky enpough to try them once..I have a Yashica twin that I play with once in a while, actually very sharp pics..gets a lot of attention and questions..really neat and fun! Usually just use a tiny box flash and shoot at f8
But I need to be careful with framing when up close to subject.

How long have you been doing this as hobby and how long as pro? How did you start? What is your favorite genre?

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Oct 16, 2019 20:32:15   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
peter pat wrote:
I love the Rolle and although not a twin the Blad as well, they are silky smooth and well built. Dont own one but was lucky enpough to try them once..I have a Yashica twin that I play with once in a while, actually very sharp pics..gets a lot of attention and questions..really neat and fun! Usually just use a tiny box flash and shoot at f8
But I need to be careful with framing when up close to subject.

How long have you been doing this as hobby and how long as pro? How did you start? What is your favorite genre?
I love the Rolle and although not a twin the Blad ... (show quote)


Long time, since about 1964. I got a BFA and a MFA in photography. Even studied with Ansel Adams and Minor White. My favorite genre is landscapes. Mostly because I could never get that spark that Karsh or Avadon had in their portraits. I ran a studio for about a year and then got picked up as a Photography Instructor at Northern Michigan University and then at the University of Alaska. First and foremost I am an educator. The differance between an educator and a Pro turned teacher is the Pro never gives away all his secrets (job security) and an Educator tells it all and makes sure that his students understand everything. The greates reward for an educator is that his students will exceed him in his abilities. An educator also will learn from his students. Learning is a two-way street. I still teach part time at a community college and adult education.

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Oct 16, 2019 21:49:30   #
peter pat Loc: Miami Beach
 
Wow, its an honor to meet you. Well thanks for your advice, I felt it was honest and true. I love photography because it is like a time machine. I really enjoy looking at works from the early times and am a fan of those you have mentioned. There is an exhibit right now in Washington called "The eye of the sun" I am hoping to be able to see it before it moves on.

Thanks again.

Pete

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Oct 16, 2019 22:02:25   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Electronic images and books are good. But seeing the actual printed images of the masters is the best way to see and learn.

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Oct 16, 2019 22:05:26   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
ORpilot wrote:
Long time, since about 1964. I got a BFA and a MFA in photography. Even studied with Ansel Adams and Minor White. My favorite genre is landscapes. Mostly because I could never get that spark that Karsh or Avadon had in their portraits. I ran a studio for about a year and then got picked up as a Photography Instructor at Northern Michigan University and then at the University of Alaska. First and foremost I am an educator. The differance between an educator and a Pro turned teacher is the Pro never gives away all his secrets (job security) and an Educator tells it all and makes sure that his students understand everything. The greates reward for an educator is that his students will exceed him in his abilities. An educator also will learn from his students. Learning is a two-way street. I still teach part time at a community college and adult education.
Long time, since about 1964. I got a BFA and a MFA... (show quote)


Excellent perspective and thank you. My son teaches photography and is teaching photography courses this summer at the local community college during summer session when school is out. He is a much better photographer than I am, and that makes me very happy, though I will take credit for having him read Ansel Adams three classics while he was a teenager

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Oct 16, 2019 22:59:00   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
thank you TriX and peter pat. We all have to start somewhere , usually the bottom. We can take many roads but where we end up is the educational trip of life.

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Oct 18, 2019 17:34:29   #
jayluber Loc: Phoenix, AZ
 
Bring an assistant to hold the speedlight instead of using a tripod.

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Oct 27, 2019 20:46:29   #
Kaib795 Loc: Maryland, USA
 
I would try to expose without the flash to just get the background in (it can be dark but you have to be able to see it), do what you have to by adjusting your ISO but get the background ... then turn on the flash in TTL and let it do the work for you. I use off camera flash with a MagMod and like Godox transceivers and receivers with my Nikon and get excellent results. Most of the time you don't really need the background in the shot so open up your lens and blur it out. If you have a prime try it wide open and also at 2.8 then at f4. You may be surprised at the results. Often hitting the focus dead on at 1.2 or 1.4 in a dark environment is very hard for most cameras but at f4 you may get more hits and with couple shots even f5.6 allows both to be in focus. This technique works very well for me.

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Oct 27, 2019 20:47:29   #
Kaib795 Loc: Maryland, USA
 
Also note that this works your flash less so repeat shots are faster due to the higher ISO settings.

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