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Oct 1, 2019 13:46:05   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder mysteries together. We are currently watching the ongoing British series "Midsomer Murders". Last night we watched Season 10, Episode 6 titled "Picture of Innocence". The plot of the episode (circa 2006) revolved around conflict between one group of older film camera only club members and a second group of younger digital camera users. I found it interesting to watch the heated rivalry. I had to laugh several time when I observed a few technical "mistakes" in the episode such as apparently developing color prints in a darkroom in trays under safelights. I just thought I'd share.

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Oct 1, 2019 13:54:24   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
one_eyed_pete wrote:
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder mysteries together. We are currently watching the ongoing British series "Midsomer Murders". Last night we watched Season 10, Episode 6 titled "Picture of Innocence". The plot of the episode (circa 2006) revolved around conflict between one group of older film camera only club members and a second group of younger digital camera users. I found it interesting to watch the heated rivalry. I had to laugh several time when I observed a few technical "mistakes" in the episode such as apparently developing color prints in a darkroom in trays under safelights. I just thought I'd share.
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder myst... (show quote)

Haha - Poetic license.
Two minutes of "completely dark" would not yield as much character information. Most <older> people would recognize red light as a darkroom. The things they do in movies.

P.S. - We watch Midsomer also.

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Oct 1, 2019 14:09:54   #
Bill 45
 
I going though the conflict between film and digital cameras rate now. It taking me two weeks to understand the digital camera. One thing I find myself doing is when I using the digital camera, I thinking film camera. I have no use for moive part of the camera. Has a view finder on the digital camera which is a total wasted. Don't belived what you see in a tv program. The shows are a fountain of misinformation.

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Oct 1, 2019 14:16:15   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bill 45 wrote:
I going though the conflict between film and digital cameras rate now. It taking me two weeks to understand the digital camera. One thing I find myself doing is when I using the digital camera, I thinking film camera. I have no use for moive part of the camera. Has a view finder on the digital camera which is a total wasted. Don't belived what you see in a tv program. The shows are a fountain of misinformation.

Interesting.
I only use the viewfinder.

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Oct 1, 2019 14:23:46   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Bill 45 wrote:
I going though the conflict between film and digital cameras rate now. It taking me two weeks to understand the digital camera. One thing I find myself doing is when I using the digital camera, I thinking film camera. I have no use for moive part of the camera. Has a view finder on the digital camera which is a total wasted. Don't belived what you see in a tv program. The shows are a fountain of misinformation.


How is the viewfinder on a DSLR totally wasted? You try composing an image outside in bright sunlight using only the rear LCD screen.

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Oct 1, 2019 14:50:05   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
one_eyed_pete wrote:
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder mysteries together. We are currently watching the ongoing British series "Midsomer Murders". Last night we watched Season 10, Episode 6 titled "Picture of Innocence". The plot of the episode (circa 2006) revolved around conflict between one group of older film camera only club members and a second group of younger digital camera users. I found it interesting to watch the heated rivalry. I had to laugh several time when I observed a few technical "mistakes" in the episode such as apparently developing color prints in a darkroom in trays under safelights. I just thought I'd share.
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder myst... (show quote)


Gee, sorta like UHH Except even the older film-only members here post digitally, and many even shoot digitally, too, or instead. They still teach film photography in college classes, too.

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Oct 1, 2019 14:57:35   #
ecurb1105
 
one_eyed_pete wrote:
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder mysteries together. We are currently watching the ongoing British series "Midsomer Murders". Last night we watched Season 10, Episode 6 titled "Picture of Innocence". The plot of the episode (circa 2006) revolved around conflict between one group of older film camera only club members and a second group of younger digital camera users. I found it interesting to watch the heated rivalry. I had to laugh several time when I observed a few technical "mistakes" in the episode such as apparently developing color prints in a darkroom in trays under safelights. I just thought I'd share.
My wife and I enjoy watching detective/murder myst... (show quote)


Just FYI, in the early 1970s, I used to process Agfacolor prints in open trays albeit without safelights for Kranzten Studio in Chicago. In the 1980s I did Cibachrome prints up to 20x24 in trays in my home darkroom. I get more upset by movies misusing a Speed Graphic.

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Oct 1, 2019 15:21:09   #
BebuLamar
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
How is the viewfinder on a DSLR totally wasted? You try composing an image outside in bright sunlight using only the rear LCD screen.


My guess that he called the LCD screen on the DSLR the viewfinder.

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Oct 1, 2019 16:00:10   #
Bill 45
 
BebuLamar wrote:
My guess that he called the LCD screen on the DSLR the viewfinder.


I known what a LCD screen is and what a viewfinder is. I had to try using the viewfinder with the sun on the LCD screen.

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Oct 1, 2019 16:45:20   #
Bill 45
 
When the word "viewfinder" is use I am thinking of a viewfinder as it relate to a ranger finder film camera.

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Oct 1, 2019 16:49:14   #
BebuLamar
 
Bill 45 wrote:
I known what a LCD screen is and what a viewfinder is. I had to try using the viewfinder with the sun on the LCD screen.


So how is the viewfinder on the DSLR totally wasted? It's the same as on a film camera.

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Oct 2, 2019 10:18:31   #
adm
 
In reality, it might be older photographers shooting digital and younger ones shooting film.

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Oct 2, 2019 11:41:21   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
adm wrote:
In reality, it might be older photographers shooting digital and younger ones shooting film.


I’m older and I happily shoot digital and film.

What digital camera are you using? Are you referring to an EVF (electronic viewfinder) as being useless to you?

I almost exclusively use the viewfinder on my digital cameras. I find the EVF to be more useful to me than an optical viewfinder. I much prefer the EVF.

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Oct 2, 2019 15:02:50   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
We saw that episode as well and enjoyed watching the conflict. The technical errors appear all to have done been to make the story understandable to laymen (or fulfilling their expectations of photography). As far as LCD vice Viewfinder; I leave the point-and-shoot digital cameras home when I am shooting outdoors. The LCD is useful indoors but old habits are hard to lose. In the sun, the LCD is useless for my eyes. When I had my first LCD-screen digital I tried using one of the attachments to emulate a viewfinder by looking through a black box to to see the LCD. It helped a little but was awkward and my distance-vision vice near-field vision issues made it a difficult chore. The DSLR is definitely preferred by me.

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Oct 2, 2019 17:20:31   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
How is the viewfinder on a DSLR totally wasted? You try composing an image outside in bright sunlight using only the rear LCD screen.


I agree. Using the monitor is not good for me. Too difficult to get a sharp image without the steadying 3 point stance. Never could get a sharp image without the viewfinder. It's the reason I replaced a Canon A2500 with Panasonic Lumix DMC ZS60 (18 MP from 10 was a bonus).

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