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Sep 30, 2019 17:46:27   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
When my Nikon 9000 died (the second time), I purchased the Epson V850. It's supposed to be the best. I'm really struggling to get decent scans from it, using the SilverFast software that came with it. I'm used to getting beautiful scans with no extra spotting required. It seems that I get a lot of different types of error results. Sometimes, even though I try to tell the program to make a large output, it simply doesn't. And I'll get TIFF files that are only about 10 MB. Not big enough. Or I have to spend hours doing spotting work. It's as though the ICE simply does nothing. In fact, it looks as though it ADDS spots and marks! Today, I actually got it to make large files and it appears the ICE worked, but the colours are reversed! It gave me negatives instead of converting the negatives. One image I did today is of an oriole in a tree (lots of green background). It showed the green as ugly yellow-orange. (The bird was the correct colour.) When I didn't select that image on the strip, it looked fine. The second it was the one selected it went to horrid colour! I know I'm doing a lot wrong, but frankly, I'm ready to give up. Is it really this hard? And yes, I have read the manual - about 5 times!

I scanned a negative. It gave me a negative!
I scanned a negative.  It gave me a negative!...
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The background behind the bird is GREEN! It rendered it as ugly yellow.
The background behind the bird is GREEN!  It rende...
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Sep 30, 2019 18:12:06   #
SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC
 
I'd suggest checking into VueScan. I've got an Epson V550 and find that VueScan is much more capable than the Epson software. But VueScan does have a bit more of a learning curve than Epson.

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Sep 30, 2019 18:46:46   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I use SilverFast software with my Epson scanner and have for years. I personally think it's superior to anything on the market today. There are a good many settings within SilverFast that need to be addressed. A lot of what you are mentioning and I see in your examples I've seen myself more than once.

Don't give up. It takes a bit of time to learn.
--Bob
AzPicLady wrote:
When my Nikon 9000 died (the second time), I purchased the Epson V850. It's supposed to be the best. I'm really struggling to get decent scans from it, using the SilverFast software that came with it. I'm used to getting beautiful scans with no extra spotting required. It seems that I get a lot of different types of error results. Sometimes, even though I try to tell the program to make a large output, it simply doesn't. And I'll get TIFF files that are only about 10 MB. Not big enough. Or I have to spend hours doing spotting work. It's as though the ICE simply does nothing. In fact, it looks as though it ADDS spots and marks! Today, I actually got it to make large files and it appears the ICE worked, but the colours are reversed! It gave me negatives instead of converting the negatives. One image I did today is of an oriole in a tree (lots of green background). It showed the green as ugly yellow-orange. (The bird was the correct colour.) When I didn't select that image on the strip, it looked fine. The second it was the one selected it went to horrid colour! I know I'm doing a lot wrong, but frankly, I'm ready to give up. Is it really this hard? And yes, I have read the manual - about 5 times!
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Sep 30, 2019 19:52:42   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
What Bob said (re: SilverFast.) And what Steve said, too (re: ViewScan).

And as for using ICE, I don't. There may be those who disagree, but I find it softens the overall scan.

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Sep 30, 2019 20:34:59   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
AzPicLady wrote:
When my Nikon 9000 died (the second time), I purchased the Epson V850. It's supposed to be the best. I'm really struggling to get decent scans from it, using the SilverFast software that came with it. I'm used to getting beautiful scans with no extra spotting required. It seems that I get a lot of different types of error results. Sometimes, even though I try to tell the program to make a large output, it simply doesn't. And I'll get TIFF files that are only about 10 MB. Not big enough. Or I have to spend hours doing spotting work. It's as though the ICE simply does nothing. In fact, it looks as though it ADDS spots and marks! Today, I actually got it to make large files and it appears the ICE worked, but the colours are reversed! It gave me negatives instead of converting the negatives. One image I did today is of an oriole in a tree (lots of green background). It showed the green as ugly yellow-orange. (The bird was the correct colour.) When I didn't select that image on the strip, it looked fine. The second it was the one selected it went to horrid colour! I know I'm doing a lot wrong, but frankly, I'm ready to give up. Is it really this hard? And yes, I have read the manual - about 5 times!
When my Nikon 9000 died (the second time), I purch... (show quote)

I use VueScan. Have you used it’s color sampler tool to find White. It’s quick and makes a huge difference. I use ICE but set low. With a weak setting you get most of the dirt but don’t soften the picture.
...Cam

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Sep 30, 2019 21:00:57   #
jdubu Loc: San Jose, CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
I use SilverFast software with my Epson scanner and have for years. I personally think it's superior to anything on the market today. There are a good many settings within SilverFast that need to be addressed. A lot of what you are mentioning and I see in your examples I've seen myself more than once.

Don't give up. It takes a bit of time to learn.
--Bob


I second Bob's remarks. The results with Silverfast can really put Vuescan to shame, but it there is a learning curve. Work with it, make notes on how setting changes affect scans.

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Oct 1, 2019 01:42:51   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
SteveFranz wrote:
I'd suggest checking into VueScan. I've got an Epson V550 and find that VueScan is much more capable than the Epson software. But VueScan does have a bit more of a learning curve than Epson.


He does not use the Epson software, he uses SilverFast (waayyy better than VueScan)!

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Oct 1, 2019 07:33:55   #
Doyle Thomas Loc: Vancouver Washington ~ USA
 
rmalarz wrote:
I use SilverFast software with my Epson scanner and have for years. I personally think it's superior to anything on the market today. There are a good many settings within SilverFast that need to be addressed. A lot of what you are mentioning and I see in your examples I've seen myself more than once.

Don't give up. It takes a bit of time to learn.
--Bob


same SF

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Oct 1, 2019 07:58:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
So VueScan and SilverFast both have learning curves. Not good! I'm waiting for a product that doesn't require learning. : )

I use the V600 software, and that satisfies my limited needs.

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Oct 1, 2019 09:27:07   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
SteveFranz wrote:
I'd suggest checking into VueScan. I've got an Epson V550 and find that VueScan is much more capable than the Epson software. But VueScan does have a bit more of a learning curve than Epson.


I think I downloaded that some years back, but never used it because I got a workaround for the Nikon. I'll see what it has to offer. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Oct 1, 2019 09:27:39   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
rmalarz wrote:
I use SilverFast software with my Epson scanner and have for years. I personally think it's superior to anything on the market today. There are a good many settings within SilverFast that need to be addressed. A lot of what you are mentioning and I see in your examples I've seen myself more than once.

Don't give up. It takes a bit of time to learn.
--Bob


I know you use it. I think I need to make an appointment with you and have you give me some lessons!

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Oct 1, 2019 09:31:16   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Cany143 wrote:
What Bob said (re: SilverFast.) And what Steve said, too (re: ViewScan).

And as for using ICE, I don't. There may be those who disagree, but I find it softens the overall scan.


I never noticed ICE softening the image with the Nikon software. What I find with the SilverFast is that it doesn't remove any dust. The Epson software has two settings - one that's dust/scratch removal and one that's de-ice. The de-ice simply does nothing. The dust/scratch task adds ugly artifacts to the image without removing dust.

The discouraging thing about that is that my negatives are clean. But the carriers aren't, and try as I might, I cannot get them clean! I'm just SO discouraged!

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Oct 1, 2019 09:32:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
CamB wrote:
I use VueScan. Have you used it’s color sampler tool to find White. It’s quick and makes a huge difference. I use ICE but set low. With a weak setting you get most of the dirt but don’t soften the picture.
...Cam


I'll try that. Thanks.

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Oct 1, 2019 09:34:00   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
jdubu wrote:
I second Bob's remarks. The results with Silverfast can really put Vuescan to shame, but it there is a learning curve. Work with it, make notes on how setting changes affect scans.


I keep plugging away at it. Yesterday, I actually thought it was working properly, but the results were SO wrong! Sometimes it won't allow me to make the settings I want. I feel like the software poltergheist are having a heyday with me!

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Oct 1, 2019 09:35:19   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
speters wrote:
He does not use the Epson software, he uses SilverFast (waayyy better than VueScan)!


That's what I keep being told. If I could just get it to work correctly. . . !

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