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Sep 16, 2019 07:22:49   #
Musella Rose
 
I prefer viewfinder, but there are plenty of times when I have to use live screen. My setup is lightweight fuji xt1 system. I keep the camera strap at a comfortable length, but short enough that when I use the screen it tightens when straightening my arms. This forms a tripod (more or less) between my two arms and neck. If for some reason the strap is too long, I just fold (actually bunch) the extra length into my right hand. Support the lens in my left.

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Sep 16, 2019 07:31:00   #
LarryFitz Loc: Beacon NY
 
I large part is new Cameras/Cell phone can take photos with faster shutter speed. Therefore same amount stabilization is not required.

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Sep 16, 2019 07:34:17   #
ronz Loc: Florida
 
You are correct, I remember showing showing how a film camera should be held for that steady photo.. It was a much bigger thing back then than now but still important.

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Sep 16, 2019 08:13:33   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Huh? What are you talking about? This is your first post in this thread and I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the OP of this thread. How could I, or anyone else know what you "meant"? I hope you are not suggesting that you are the same person at the OP and have two different logins names.


Sorry, posted from my phone. It was a typo. Should have read "It WAS pretty clear what IT meant". I guess what should be clear now is that you are a literalist and completely unable to infer the obvious.

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Sep 16, 2019 08:17:24   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
I suppose a fast shutter speed would compensate for some instability encountered while holding a camera away from your face. Having grown up with a viewfinder, I would not want a camera without one. I do, however, often take photos with my phone without benefit of a viewfinder - but it is also light enough to hold still.

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Sep 16, 2019 08:41:06   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Sorry, posted from my phone. It was a typo. Should have read "It WAS pretty clear what IT meant". I guess what should be clear now is that you are a literalist and completely unable to infer the obvious.


Don't appreciate the snide remark. I am not psychic. I can only go by what people say, not by what you think they mean. English is a very precise language. I try not to jump to conclusions and interpret what people may or may not mean when what they've written is unclear. I can only respond to what they've actually said.

In his response to my post, the OP said, " Isn't your right thumb in there somewhere?", Which seems to suggest that I might use it to provide additional support against my head. I am uncertain exactly what he meant by that, but unlike you, I don't make assumptions.

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Sep 16, 2019 08:57:33   #
jcboy3
 
nadelewitz wrote:
One of the most important things for taking pictures is: How to hold a camera!

It has always been taught that with a camera having an eye-level viewfinder, you brace your hands and camera against your head/face so it is steady and does not jerk when pressing the shutter.

Now there are zillions of point & shoots and bridge cameras that don't have eye-level viewfinders, optical or digital. Only the LCD panel. Which you hold at least several inches away from your face.

Whatever happened to good sense in the first step in taking a picture? As much as even the lowest-priced cameras cost, aren't they bad tools without a viewfinder (or a tripod)?
One of the most important things for taking pictur... (show quote)


Most cameras have image stabilization in the camera body. Some DSLR lenses have image stabilization built in.

Cameras are great tools without a viewfinder. Having a viewfinder these days is a choice you make when you buy your camera. Choice is good.

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Sep 16, 2019 09:03:48   #
ferdahl Loc: Republic Missouri
 
I have a Olympus OMD E-M10. Has a viewfinder and a rear monitor that tilts. I find the rear tilt monitor is the nuts when using a tripod. And also great for holding the camera at waist level like it is an old box camera! Gives a different perspective :)

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Sep 16, 2019 09:18:07   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
When using an LCD screen on a small camera you can get decent stability with the proper technique. Keep those elbows close in to the body. Or prop against a nearby surface. With the magic of computational imagery that’s inside of camera phones, low light shots aren’t much of a problem for me.

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Sep 16, 2019 09:24:09   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
nadelewitz wrote:
One of the most important things for taking pictures is: How to hold a camera!

It has always been taught that with a camera having an eye-level viewfinder, you brace your hands and camera against your head/face so it is steady and does not jerk when pressing the shutter.

Now there are zillions of point & shoots and bridge cameras that don't have eye-level viewfinders, optical or digital. Only the LCD panel. Which you hold at least several inches away from your face.

Whatever happened to good sense in the first step in taking a picture? As much as even the lowest-priced cameras cost, aren't they bad tools without a viewfinder (or a tripod)?
One of the most important things for taking pictur... (show quote)


I agree with you 100%. In fact, I bought a new Lumix DMC-ZS100 for my wife yesterday mainly because it has an eye-level viewfinder. Now, the trick is to get her to use it (you can't tell her anything).



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Sep 16, 2019 09:30:10   #
PaulBrit Loc: Merlin, Southern Oregon
 
I have a Nikon D750. It is often used at short notice to capture a rapidly changing landscape. I am frequently surprised at the sharpness of my shots and suspect that is in part due to the technology. But it also allows for a good holding position.

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Sep 16, 2019 09:33:42   #
Canisdirus
 
I'm shooting hand held these days at 1/20th and getting sharpimages.
That probably has something to do with it.
Technology is mitigating the old non stabilized style.

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Sep 16, 2019 09:34:29   #
Earnest Botello Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
At my age I can no longer see that well through the viewfinder, so thank God for live view.

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Sep 16, 2019 09:37:12   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
Different strrokes for different folks: Great technique is always good, but; The answers to this will be highly variable depending on the equipment used (and layout of same), shooting situation, personal impediments and a host of other influences. Although I used the "proper technique/classic way" for decades, a left arm rotator issue makes that painful now, especially with larger/longer/heavier lenses....that said, I have no problem with producing sharp, steady shots....I learned to adapt to my situation.

Induced "unsteadyness" would be typical with any extension away from your body, as there are fewer support points, fewer vibration "dampeners", and "leverage" effects, a good simple example would be the difference in steadyness between shooting directly from the head of a stout tripod versus shooting from a tripod with a center column extended, and possibly a ballhead or somesuch attached....look through the viewfinder or at the live screen view as you simply touch the camera, watch how long it takes to settle down for the shot. If there is a long lens attached it could take several or up to 5 seconds for complete stop to vibration. If you think you are a "steady Eddie", shoot a video clip while hand holding and the watch it in replay....you will then know if you are "Steady Eddie" or "Wavy Gravy" !!

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Sep 16, 2019 10:25:30   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
nadelewitz wrote:
One of the most important things for taking pictures is: How to hold a camera!

It has always been taught that with a camera having an eye-level viewfinder, you brace your hands and camera against your head/face so it is steady and does not jerk when pressing the shutter.

Now there are zillions of point & shoots and bridge cameras that don't have eye-level viewfinders, optical or digital. Only the LCD panel. Which you hold at least several inches away from your face.

Whatever happened to good sense in the first step in taking a picture? As much as even the lowest-priced cameras cost, aren't they bad tools without a viewfinder (or a tripod)?
One of the most important things for taking pictur... (show quote)


Answer: Don't buy a camera with out a Viewfinder of some sort. I certainly would not.

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