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Sep 4, 2019 11:14:24   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
yhtomit wrote:
Kalifornistan.


Link. Just watch the news and read the paper. No link needed.

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Sep 4, 2019 11:19:22   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Link. Just watch the news and read the paper. No link needed.


You need to qualify that PMSNBCNN is not news.

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Sep 4, 2019 11:50:01   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
wilpharm wrote:
that securely locked gun won't do you much good in a home invasion type situation.. safe queens are just that!!!


You too, missed the point. Hopefully the one I carry constantly will suffice in such a situation.

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Sep 4, 2019 11:58:53   #
Alafoto Loc: Montgomery, AL
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Au contraire my friend. I believe in some states there is already codified law or politicians are thinking about passing a law stating that if you have a firearm in your home it must be disassembled making it not fit for immediate use such as if home invaders burst through your door.

Dennis


I appreciate the info. I had no idea. In my 73 years on God's earth I have lived only in Oklahoma and Alabama. Both states mostly conservative, I believe, and free of such ridiculous tyranny for the most part. Served as a police officer long ago in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I should by now, not be amazed at the i***tic laws that are passed to supposedly protect us by the liberal mindset.

With respect...

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Sep 4, 2019 13:13:07   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Alafoto wrote:
I appreciate the info. I had no idea. In my 73 years on God's earth I have lived only in Oklahoma and Alabama. Both states mostly conservative, I believe, and free of such ridiculous tyranny for the most part. Served as a police officer long ago in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I should by now, not be amazed at the i***tic laws that are passed to supposedly protect us by the liberal mindset.

With respect...


I've done a search on this and cannot find one state where you are required to disassemble a firearm that is being stored in your house. I have found states that require that the gun be locked up whether inside a lockbox or a trigger lock but that's about as far as it goes.
Don't believe everything you read on this forum as there are a lot of ill-informed people who have access to computers.
If Dennis would like to supply documentation of any of these state laws, I'd appreciate it.

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Sep 4, 2019 13:59:55   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
Alafoto wrote:
You too, missed the point. Hopefully the one I carry constantly will suffice in such a situation.


hopefully you won't need it..

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Sep 4, 2019 14:17:32   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Frank T wrote:
I've done a search on this and cannot find one state where you are required to disassemble a firearm that is being stored in your house. I have found states that require that the gun be locked up whether inside a lockbox or a trigger lock but that's about as far as it goes.
Don't believe everything you read on this forum as there are a lot of ill-informed people who have access to computers.
If Dennis would like to supply documentation of any of these state laws, I'd appreciate it.


Frank read back at my post and I stated, I believe...Now if you want to call me a liar then be my guest. But I STILL believe at one time, possibly Massachusetts or California, possibly DC was looking into passing a law where if you had a firearm in your home it would need to be disassembled. That is the t***h. Take it as you will.

Dennis

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Sep 4, 2019 16:43:10   #
Rose42
 
Massachussets requires firearms be kept locked with a locking device when not in use. In California, Connecticut and NY its sometimes.

Is that what you mean?

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Sep 4, 2019 17:18:11   #
Huey Driver Loc: Texas
 
Sometimes? What the heck does that mean, my choice or just on Tue, Thur, and Sundays?

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Sep 4, 2019 17:39:05   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
dennis2146 wrote:
I appreciate your comments though I may not totally agree. Longer waiting periods have proven to not really work. Consider: If I am the type of person to rush down and buy a firearm just because I am angry at my boss today then most times, with this type of person, he will be angry with his boss again and again. Or he will just be a person who has anger problems and will be angry with someone else 3,5,10,30 days later. There is no controlling human behavior in that fashion. I am sure there is someone somewhere in the world who a 10 day waiting person has stopped from harming someone with a firearm.

But on the other hand consider you are a wife or girlfriend who has an abusive husband or boyfriend. She broke up with him last week and he just called on the phone to tell her he is on his way to k**l her. She thinks she will reason with him but he breaks in and stabs her to death. There are numerous occasions where this exact thing has happened. Most likely he hasn't called her or simply shows up at her employment and tells the front desk that he is supposed to be picking her up for lunch. He is allowed into her work area and k**ls her and several others. This has happened before. I used to teach a class to state prison academy trainees on just this subject. In Colorado with its instant check system it isn't a problem. In California with its 15 day waiting period it could be a big problem. Imagine you are that woman. You know your husband is violent as he has beaten you up and put you in the hospital several times in the past. You want to buy a firearm but that will take 15 days. Now what. That is the real life of some of these women.

I doubt anyone will ever have a solution because this is not a gun problem. You have no doubt read several times about my brother and me taking guns on the school bus at 13 years old. Our teachers knew we had a pretty large firearms collection even then and would invite us to give demonstrations in the school. Others here have reported the very same thing. Except for big cities guns were all over in all homes. I can't begin to tell you how many homes I visited as a kid and would see a rifle or shotgun behind a door, just in case. In every situation we were taught by parents to never/ever touch any firearm without permission, a rule I follow to this day because of firearms training by my parents.

Imagine how many of our children would have/will be saved if only the Liberal h**ed NRA would be allowed to teach their child safety firearm class to school children. It is basic kids information about, if you see a gun leave it alone, don't touch, call an adult. Children are k**led in firearm accidents because they see people on television and in movies get k**led by the thousands these days. What could be wrong with a class teaching these impressionable children to not touch any firearm but call an adult? Yet the NRA is so h**ed by the Liberals that they seem willing to allow their children to be k**led rather than do anything NRA involved. Such a waste of common sense to my way of thinking.

You mention some of your homies k*****g each other with handguns or AK rifles. No offense meant and I am not totally disagreeing with you but many gang bangers don't use the AR or AK rifles in their daily gang activities. The gun is too heavy and too long to be used often. If you are positive that the AK was used then I will believe you. But it does not happen too often because the guns are fairly unwieldy and not capable of being concealed well. I have generally found that only in movies do you really see these weapons in the hands of gang bangers. Besides I thought Obama and Eric Holder sold all of the AK's and AR's to the Mexican drug cartels.

You mention securing the weapons. I know yesterday one of the Liberal posters pointed out that if my guns were stolen from my house and someone shot with that firearm I should be held responsible and go to court because my guns were not locked up enough. We have had National Armories broken into with M16's and medium machine guns stolen in the past and I am sure will be again sometime in the future. What will we do, put the commanding officer in prison because thugs broke into his armory?

My guns at the moment are locked up in 4 safes except for my carry gun. But they are locked behind the door to my home. Even if I do not have a safe I do have locks one my doors. If someone breaks into my house and steals my firearm there is no way I should be held responsible for their actions. Only in the case of firearms do Liberals want this to be enforced. Steal my knife and butcher people, no problem. Steal my locked vehicle by breaking a window and hot wiring the ignition and then driving my truck into a street load of people k*****g 30 and no problem. But steal my firearm and use it to k**l one person and I am, by Liberal thinking anyway, going to prison and deservedly so. My point is that Liberals want to put unnecessary rules upon firearms that are not on anything else. A crazy person can go down to a Walmart and buy two huge butcher knives. Then he can go right back into the store walking the aisles stabbing people in the back or neck. The k**ler can even seem to be a little bit nutty to the cashier and he will still be sold the knives. I am not suggesting that a crazy type person be sold a firearm.

I once refused a sale to a person who I thought should not own a firearm. He wasn't crazy nor did he make any threats toward anyone. To this day I can't tell you what the exact reason was in my mind. But after working in police and corrections for years you get a feeling of people. My feeling of this person was not to sell him a firearm. I have heard of other dealers doing the same thing from time to time. If a person doesn't look right or makes some comment that doesn't sound right then no sale.

Thanks for your comments,

Dennis
I appreciate your comments though I may not totall... (show quote)

Thanks for the info. I learn a lot about firearms reading your posts. I own a pistol and have a concealed carry permit, but have only practiced with it one time at a firing range.

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Sep 4, 2019 17:47:33   #
Angmo
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Thanks for the info. I learn a lot about firearms reading your posts. I own a pistol and have a concealed carry permit, but have only practiced with it one time at a firing range.



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Sep 4, 2019 18:23:15   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Huey Driver wrote:
Sometimes? What the heck does that mean, my choice or just on Tue, Thur, and Sundays?


They decide when you get to carry. In order to get a CCW from CT, you pretty much have to prove that you NEED to carry. Otherwise, they deny you and keep your money.

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Sep 4, 2019 19:03:25   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Rose42 wrote:
Massachussets requires firearms be kept locked with a locking device when not in use. In California, Connecticut and NY its sometimes.

Is that what you mean?


Rose this would have been some time ago. I seem to recall reading that at least one state wanted firearms disassembled inside a residence. Apparently it seems to have not gone very far.

Dennis

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Sep 4, 2019 19:11:54   #
Angmo
 
BigBear wrote:
They decide when you get to carry. In order to get a CCW from CT, you pretty much have to prove that you NEED to carry. Otherwise, they deny you and keep your money.


Hmmm. Shall not be infringed...

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Sep 4, 2019 19:28:16   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
Angmo wrote:
Hmmm. Shall not be infringed...


There are some property options in NH that I am working on.

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