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Sep 2, 2019 00:40:12   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
in response to the post "gun violence" I would like to hear just possible solutions to the mass and individual k*****gs we endure each year. lets omit the name calling and the can't does.

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Sep 2, 2019 01:12:44   #
EyeSawYou
 
bull drink water wrote:
in response to the post "gun violence" I would like to hear just possible solutions to the mass and individual k*****gs we endure each year. lets omit the name calling and the can't does.


Maybe you need to re-frame your question because there is no such thing as "gun violence" any more than there is "knife violence" or "vehicular violence". Deal with the social issues that's causing these actions and you may come up with a sufficient and effective solution to the problem of people murdering people.

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Sep 2, 2019 01:30:19   #
KenW Loc: Portland OR
 
There will never be a solution to the mass shootings and the carnage associated with it as long as firearms are so easily obtainable by persons of questionable mental state. When people earnestly put forth solutions to tighten up loopholes and the ability to purchase certain firearms by certain peoples, the 2nd amendment advocates come out of the woodwork, along with the NRA, to defeat any attempt to do so. As a result we will continue with status quo until we get serious about firearm reform. How many more people have to die before we say enough is enough.

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Sep 2, 2019 01:45:47   #
jcboy3
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Maybe you need to re-frame your question because there is no such thing as "gun violence" any more than there is "knife violence" or "vehicular violence". Deal with the social issues that's causing these actions and you may come up with a sufficient and effective solution to the problem of people murdering people.


"Gun Violence"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States

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Sep 2, 2019 02:46:26   #
EyeSawYou
 


Doesn’t matter what Wikipedia says, no such thing as gun violence.

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Sep 2, 2019 05:32:30   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
bull drink water wrote:
in response to the post "gun violence" I would like to hear just possible solutions to the mass and individual k*****gs we endure each year. lets omit the name calling and the can't does.


-Keep democrats from control of major US cities.

-Keep l*****ts from having guns.

Statistically when one removes l*****ts from the equation, the US murder rate falls to among the worlds lowest.

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Sep 2, 2019 08:10:18   #
tradio Loc: Oxford, Ohio
 
It is a family problem. Too many kids growing up without a father or a father that is involved.

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Sep 2, 2019 08:16:02   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
LWW wrote:
-Keep democrats from control of major US cities.

-Keep l*****ts from having guns.

Statistically when one removes l*****ts from the equation, the US murder rate falls to among the worlds lowest.


so do you think that if we remove 1/2 the population, the gun deaths would go down to near zero?
with all the lefties gone, you righties would still k**l each other, you just wouldn't have anyone to blame.
by the way, are you proposing amending the second amendment to exclude lefties from owning guns?like maybe "the right of righties only to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

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Sep 2, 2019 08:31:47   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
LWW wrote:
-Keep democrats from control of major US cities.

-Keep l*****ts from having guns.

Statistically when one removes l*****ts from the equation, the US murder rate falls to among the worlds lowest.

Right-on!

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Sep 2, 2019 08:34:15   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
tradio wrote:
It is a family problem. Too many kids growing up without a father or a father that is involved.

I agree whole-heartedly! Fatherlessness is the most common trait among criminals, from the low-levels to the mass k**lers.

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Sep 2, 2019 09:11:59   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
bull drink water wrote:
so do you think that if we remove 1/2 the population, the gun deaths would go down to near zero?
with all the lefties gone, you righties would still k**l each other, you just wouldn't have anyone to blame.
by the way, are you proposing amending the second amendment to exclude lefties from owning guns?like maybe "the right of righties only to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Bull, that is not such a crazy idea. The overwhelming majority of murders are committed by people who are either Democrats or Democrat-leaning. You don't see righties going around k*****g each other, in fact most law enforcement people who try to keep the rest of us from k*****g each other are on the right.

You seem to think that the availability of a weapon is what causes murders. If you took away every single gun in the world, murder would go on pretty much as before. Just look around your own house. Almost every conceivable tool or object in sight can be used as a lethal weapon. A guy in France recently k**led 84 people and wounded 120 more by running them over with a truck. This death toll far exceeds all of the worst mass-shootings in U.S. history. The 911 hijackers k**led nearly three-thousand people without using guns. This is a number 50 times greater than the Las Vegas shooting of 60 people, and nearly triple the number of total victims of mass shootings in the U.S. over the last 40 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-victims-in-the-united-states-by-fatalities-and-injuries/

Because of technology, any child over the age of four is capable of using a tool to k**l someone. This is just a consequence of living in a technological world. The only way around that is to raise decent people who choose not to k**l others. Murder rates vary drastically in different parts of the World despite the fact that every single culture is capable of wiping out millions of people if they choose to do so. The rate of mass-shootings and mass-k*****gs in Europe are no different than in the United States, and if you count wars and C*******m, not only Europe, but nearly the entire rest of the World has more blood on their hands than us.

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Sep 2, 2019 09:12:24   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
Look, guys, there's no magic wand that we can wave to stop mass shootings.
However, there are incremental steps that we can take to at least move the numbers down.

For instance. No civilian ever needs a 30 or 100 round magazine. Not a h****r, not a target shooter.
Second, meaningful background checks that include mental health history.
Third, changing the 3-day rule that defaults in allowing the purchase of a firearm to a 30 day rule to give the government more time to make a decision with the default position being, they cannot buy a firearm.
Fourth, Rigorous enforcement of the federal law prohibiting straw purchases and handing out the maximum sentence of 10 years on each count for anyone violating that law.
There's probably a lot more that we can do but if we don't start somewhere we're not going to make any progress.
We reduced the number of traffic fatalities in incremental steps and we can do the same here.

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Sep 2, 2019 09:16:02   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
bull drink water wrote:
so do you think that if we remove 1/2 the population, the gun deaths would go down to near zero?
with all the lefties gone, you righties would still k**l each other, you just wouldn't have anyone to blame.
by the way, are you proposing amending the second amendment to exclude lefties from owning guns?like maybe "the right of righties only to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".


Y’all don’t represent nearly half ... but y’all do possess the majority of the intolerance and bloodlust.

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Sep 2, 2019 09:43:50   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
[quote=Steven Seward]Bull, that is not such a crazy idea. The overwhelming majority of murders are committed by people who are either Democrats or Democrat-leaning. You don't see righties going around k*****g each other, in fact most law enforcement people who try to keep the rest of us from k*****g each other are on the right.

You seem to think that the availability of a weapon is what causes murders. If you took away every single gun in the world, murder would go on pretty much as before. Just look around your own house. Almost every conceivable tool or object in sight can be used as a lethal weapon. A guy in France recently k**led 84 people and wounded 120 more by running them over with a truck. This death toll far exceeds all of the worst mass-shootings in U.S. history. The 911 hijackers k**led nearly three-thousand people without using guns. This is a number 50 times greater than the Las Vegas shooting of 60 people, and nearly triple the number of total victims of mass shootings in the U.S. over the last 40 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-victims-in-the-united-states-by-fatalities-and-injuries/

Because of technology, any child over the age of four is capable of using a tool to k**l someone. This is just a consequence of living in a technological world. The only way around that is to raise decent people who choose not to k**l others. Murder rates vary drastically in different parts of the World despite the fact that every single culture is capable of wiping out millions of people if they choose to do so. The rate of mass-shootings and mass-k*****gs in Europe are no different than in the United States, and if you count wars and C*******m, not only Europe, but nearly the entire rest of the World has more blood on their hands than us.[/quot

I was going to reply to this post but your values are so totally screwed up that I don't even know where to start.
Hope you find peace before you leave this earth.

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Sep 2, 2019 09:48:44   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
[quote=Frank T][quote=Steven Seward]Bull, that is not such a crazy idea. The overwhelming majority of murders are committed by people who are either Democrats or Democrat-leaning. You don't see righties going around k*****g each other, in fact most law enforcement people who try to keep the rest of us from k*****g each other are on the right.

You seem to think that the availability of a weapon is what causes murders. If you took away every single gun in the world, murder would go on pretty much as before. Just look around your own house. Almost every conceivable tool or object in sight can be used as a lethal weapon. A guy in France recently k**led 84 people and wounded 120 more by running them over with a truck. This death toll far exceeds all of the worst mass-shootings in U.S. history. The 911 hijackers k**led nearly three-thousand people without using guns. This is a number 50 times greater than the Las Vegas shooting of 60 people, and nearly triple the number of total victims of mass shootings in the U.S. over the last 40 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811504/mass-shooting-victims-in-the-united-states-by-fatalities-and-injuries/

Because of technology, any child over the age of four is capable of using a tool to k**l someone. This is just a consequence of living in a technological world. The only way around that is to raise decent people who choose not to k**l others. Murder rates vary drastically in different parts of the World despite the fact that every single culture is capable of wiping out millions of people if they choose to do so. The rate of mass-shootings and mass-k*****gs in Europe are no different than in the United States, and if you count wars and C*******m, not only Europe, but nearly the entire rest of the World has more blood on their hands than us.[/quot

I was going to reply to this post but your values are so totally screwed up that I don't even know where to start.
Hope you find peace before you leave this earth.[/quote]

You have no rebuttal, nor enough sense to realize it.

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