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Sep 2, 2019 20:11:11   #
AndyH Loc: Massachusetts and New Hampshire
 
artBob wrote:
Andy, as always, I prefer seeing what you mean. Feel free to modify my photos. Here's my take on your suggestion. I think it's a good suggestion.


I like this the best.


Andy

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Sep 2, 2019 21:07:58   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
artBob wrote:
So, you think people who look at composition are dishonest?

It is obvious you are on the side of the seeing spectrum that looks for obvious "story". That is, of course, fine. However, you exclude all that has been called "Art" for millennia. THAT includes technique, composition, color.....If you don't get it, that's fine, but perhaps you should not insult others who do.


No, that is not what I said—at all. People that strive to be nice and tell the photographer that an image is “good” “nice work”, “ interesting” or otherwise suggest that an image is in some way remarkable, when in fact it is no more than a common, ordinary snapshot, are dishonest; and do a disservice to the image maker with false, unwarranted praise. I said nothing about dishonesty relating to looking at composition—Read careful for content, not what you think is the writer’s intent.
Further, I insulted no one. I applauded honesty and labeled it refreshing for a forum that is abundant with false praise for amateurish, unremarkable snapshots—like the one in this thread.
You need to read either slower to understand, or at least more carefully as to not misunderstand the written word.
Now, I have insulted. Further, some insulting advice: don’t take yourself so seriously.

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Sep 2, 2019 21:35:28   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
No, that is not what I said—at all. People that strive to be nice and tell the photographer that an image is “good” “nice work”, “ interesting” or otherwise suggest that an image is in some way remarkable, when in fact it is no more than a common, ordinary snapshot, are dishonest; and do a disservice to the image maker with false, unwarranted praise. I said nothing about dishonesty relating to looking at composition—Read careful for content, not what you think is the writer’s intent.
Further, I insulted no one. I applauded honesty and labeled it refreshing for a forum that is abundant with false praise for amateurish, unremarkable snapshots—like the one in this thread.
You need to read either slower to understand, or at least more carefully as to not misunderstand the written word.
No, that is not what I said—at all. People that st... (show quote)

Since I read comments like yours which I intend to criticize very slowly, to make sure I understand, for the sake of truth and the person, perhaps you can point out where in your comment of 's post, I went wrong:
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"Kmgw9v (a regular here) (online) Joined: Dec 23, 2013 Posts: 7378 Loc: Miami, Florida
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CPR wrote:
Sorry, I don't see anything but an out of focus guy walking up some stairs.
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"An honest response--for a change. Refreshing."
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Actually, it seems it is you who have the agenda, by clearly implying support for CPR's "refreshing, honest response," then in the follow up by criticizing UHH as a "forum that is abundant with false praise for amateurish, unremarkable snapshots—like the one in this thread."

And you cannot understand why I, or others here, see you as insulting.

From what I've read here, it seems you are self-contradictory, cowardly, and silly. From now on, I, and others who see this I hope, will pay no attention to your verbiage.

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Sep 2, 2019 22:06:11   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
artBob wrote:
Since I read comments like yours which I intend to criticize very slowly, to make sure I understand, for the sake of truth and the person, perhaps you can point out where in your comment of 's post, I went wrong:
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"Kmgw9v (a regular here) (online) Joined: Dec 23, 2013 Posts: 7378 Loc: Miami, Florida
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CPR wrote:
Sorry, I don't see anything but an out of focus guy walking up some stairs.
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"An honest response--for a change. Refreshing."
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Actually, it seems it is you who have the agenda, by clearly implying support for CPR's "refreshing, honest response," then in the follow up by criticizing UHH as a "forum that is abundant with false praise for amateurish, unremarkable snapshots—like the one in this thread."

And you cannot understand why I, or others here, see you as insulting.

From what I've read here, it seems you are self-contradictory, cowardly, and silly. From now on, I, and others who see this I hope, will pay no attention to your verbiage.
Since I read comments like yours which I intend to... (show quote)


You have a problem reading. My initial post in this thread was about honesty and refreshing comment. I insulted no one.
In my second, most recent post, I said I insulted. I admitted that I insulted you and your apparent inability to read carefully, and to not apply unwritten inference; and your snapshot, and maybe even those who lied to your by omission; that is, not telling you the snapshot was unremarkable- you should try again.
Now you say that I am “self-contradictory, cowardly, and silly”.
In a previous thread you wrongly accused me of engaging in “spike-topped bigotry” which is as equally baseless as your most recents insults. Who is guilty of engaging in meaningless, less than articulate insults?

How is this: You are a true artist. That man going up the stairs is a stroke of artistic genius. Your talent is undeniable. Your post processing skills are amazing.
Are you happy, and contented with those statements? Is that the truth you seek?

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Sep 3, 2019 09:29:07   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
You have a problem reading. My initial post in this thread was about honesty and refreshing comment. I insulted no one.
In my second, most recent post, I said I insulted. I admitted that I insulted you and your apparent inability to read carefully, and to not apply unwritten inference; and your snapshot, and maybe even those who lied to your by omission; that is, not telling you the snapshot was unremarkable- you should try again.
Now you say that I am “self-contradictory, cowardly, and silly”.
In a previous thread you wrongly accused me of engaging in “spike-topped bigotry” which is as equally baseless as your most recents insults. Who is guilty of engaging in meaningless, less than articulate insults?

How is this: You are a true artist. That man going up the stairs is a stroke of artistic genius. Your talent is undeniable. Your post processing skills are amazing.
Are you happy, and contented with those statements? Is that the truth you seek?
You have a problem reading. My initial post in th... (show quote)

Thus have you proven my point, and reinforce my intent to pay no attention to your pronouncements on photographs.

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Sep 3, 2019 10:11:15   #
MichaelH Loc: NorCal via Lansing, MI
 
artBob wrote:
Thus have you proven my point, and reinforce my intent to pay no attention to your pronouncements on photographs.


Perhaps you should not have asked the question - "..., and, especially, is it a good photograph?" - if you did not really want the answer.

I will not give my opinion on your snapshot because you would not want it. I do not comment very often but from my reading on UHH I find Kmgw9v to be an honest and level headed poster. Feel free to pay no attention to my pronouncements as well.

Kmgw9v

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Sep 3, 2019 10:52:57   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
MichaelH wrote:
Perhaps you should not have asked the question - "..., and, especially, is it a good photograph?" - if you did not really want the answer.

I will not give my opinion on your snapshot because you would not want it. I do not comment very often but from my reading on UHH I find Kmgw9v to be an honest and level headed poster. Feel free to pay no attention to my pronouncements as well.

Kmgw9v


Okay. I much prefer posts that give reasons, and posters who are aware of the whole realm of photography rather than just their narrow view.

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