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Aug 31, 2019 11:38:06   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Nice composition for this male Monarch.

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Aug 31, 2019 12:51:19   #
Pysanka Artist Loc: Rochester, NY
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Nice composition for this male Monarch.


Thank you!

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Aug 31, 2019 14:07:59   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
I think you did a perfect job. As long as you have a true black somewhere, let the dark greys fall where they may.I'd venture to say your edit is much closer to the true tonality of the creature than the original. Many people prefer very contrasty images (as well as oversaturation). My taste is for something a little less sugary.

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Aug 31, 2019 14:11:21   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
kymarto wrote:
I think you did a perfect job. As long as you have a true black somewhere, let the dark greys fall where they may.I'd venture to say your edit is much closer to the true tonality of the creature than the original. Many people prefer very contrasty images (as well as oversaturation). My taste is for something a little less sugary.


What you call sugary I call snap. However, I do agree with you about too much contrast and saturation. On the other hand, you can reduce the contrast and saturation carefully to mute everything and achieve a different and valid look.

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Aug 31, 2019 23:38:17   #
Pysanka Artist Loc: Rochester, NY
 
R.G. wrote:
Your edit demonstrates that when you lift the shadows you lose contrast, as seen most noticeably in the black of the wings. In your edit you'll find that adding more contrast darkens the blacks but that brings you back to almost where you started. I know you don't have a Blacks slider so I won't suggest it as a possible fix. (Have you found out if adjusting the black point in the Curves tool is the same as lowering the blacks? If it is it's worth a try).

Adding contrast helps with overall vividness, and with a subject like this, that's a move in the right direction, so lifting the shadows and adding more contrast than in your edit isn't quite a return to where you started. However, it doesn't address one of the problems, which is that the black-lined wings aren't standing out against a dark background. I know you have a "Color correction" section, so you could try lightening green to separate the butterfly from the background.

Your edit also demonstrates another point, which is that brightening colours weakens them and darkening colours strengthens them. Again you can use the colour correction section to add strength (i.e. saturation) to specific colours like orange. I know that you don't like to stray too far from a natural look, but in this case the subject responds well to colour boosting so you can go quite far in ramping up the colours. However, be warned that boosting overall contrast will strengthen the colours, and mixing contrast and saturation can quickly lead to an overcooked look.
Your edit demonstrates that when you lift the shad... (show quote)


Hi R.G.!

Yes, adjusting the black point in the curves tool is the same as lowering the blacks. I concur with all your comments -- heaven forbid I don't like ANYTHING overcooked! Thanks for your input!

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Aug 31, 2019 23:39:57   #
Pysanka Artist Loc: Rochester, NY
 
abc1234 wrote:
Yep. Another tool that is great when used judiciously is the dehaze.

If the original post included the raw, then we could really do justice to this shot. What it really needs is the shake reduction filter. I am waiting for Adobe to add that to LR. Would that not be nice?


Unfortunately my RAW image is too large. :-(

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