JD750 Loc: SoCal

Slightly off topic, but food for thought. I proposed here an idea for future digital cameras. That there be no replaceable cards. Like modern PCs. The cameras come with memory soldered in and you use blue-tooth or other high speed wireless transfer to download.

Many people recoiled at this idea, but technically it makes sense. It eliminates a connector which improves reliability, and it eliminates a door where debris, moisture etc can enter the camera. The camera could be smaller, the body of the camera provides the protective case for the memory and memory on the PCB is smaller than memory packaged in a protective case. One could put 1 TB or more on the PCB so there would plenty of room for wedding photographers, etc not to have to worry about running out of space.

pego101

pull it out i think i read it needs 6 lbs of pull force

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

So.....your camera would be useless when you filled up this memory. No thanks! I shoot sports and NEED replaceable memory to support that. Add that to very slow transfer speeds, and I am not even remotely interested. Best of luck.

Bill_de Loc: US

Not for me. I take the card(s) out at the end of a shoot/day and replace them with ones used a few shoots back. Even though I transfer them to the computer and back them up, it's nice to have the cards on hand for a bit in case I discover a problem.

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JD750 Loc: SoCal

So your computer is useless when you fill up the memory? So you Phone is useless when you fill up the memory?

Im sorry but you do not seem to have much technological vision. However your response is typical of the responses from UHH members. Remember when computers used to have removable storage media? That has all changed. The same can happen with digital cameras.

Think out of the box a little here.

You ignored my statement about high speed wireless transfer. High speed means exactly that. Maybe your streaming wirelessly from your camera to your computer or your Network server, while you shoot, and the camera memory is for backup.

How many cards of what size do you use up on a heavy day of shooting?

Bill_de Loc: US

What do you do when shooting where there is no WiFi access? That's pretty common shooting wildlife.

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BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

So I put up a little survey on a Nikon Z6-Z7 group on Facebook the attached image shows the results.

FYI.

cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA

Yeah, and I remember when digital cameras had removable storage media, like now! I am fairly knowledgeable of technical things and that's exactly why I say that an XQD card, in a proper reader, attached to my computer by USB 3, or better, will beat almost any current Bluetooth or WiFi solution out there. That's just NOT high speed to me. Oh yes I forgot, if you fill up your computer's main memory (as opposed to storage) it will be useless! WiFi streaming of huge RAW files while shooting? Get real! My response may or may not be typical, but cameras with 'soldered on' image storage would be useless in my world. As to my card usage, I usually use at least two cameras and I use a fresh card for every game. If I shoot three or four games, I use 6 to 8 cards in my primary bodies. These would be 128GB cards which, on my D5/400/2.8 combo I could get close to filling up. I don't use all the card space on all the cards in a day's work, but I can get close with some. I've been shooting since 13, and am now 65 with about 40 years as a pro. I have a workflow that works well for me and I wouldn't buy a camera body without interchangeable cards for a whole host of reasons. If that works for you, fine. Best of luck.

chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA

Re: "However your response is typical of the responses from UHH members."...and you've tried your query in other forums and gotten a *positive* response? I guess I join the "typical"...mostly because I have those 10,000 shot days sometimes, and I don't want to depend on wireless *anything* to transfer files. Oh, and I wouldn't tether my camera to a 'puter to transfer files *ever*...there're just too many hackers out there looking to cause mayhem, for all I know there's a Trojan in my machine right now just waiting for the opportunity... ;0)

BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

Why did you hijack this discussion rather than starting your own thread. This is very discourteous to the original poster!

That's my $0.02

Bill_de Loc: US

It's really an extension of the original post. With built in storage the OP wouldn't have to be concerned about how hard it is to remove it.

Besides, how many more times does the OP need to be told his 'issue' is a normal function of the camera. If he doesn't believe it by now he will return the camera. Then some lucky person will buy it as a refurb and brag about the deal they got with only a dozen actuations on the shutter.


I don't have 2 cents, but I'll toss in one.

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Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)

I am not new to DSLR cameras. I know the difference between friction holding the card and something else holding the card. Because you cannot seem to conceive of a problem does not mean one does not exist. So,
How many times do I have to write that the card is stuck before you will believe me?
The camera is going back tomorrow ... with the card still in it.

Bill_de Loc: US

We believe you Howard. We all have the same thing. It is being held in place. You can feel it grab as you push it in. We all probably have DSLR cameras and recognize they are not the same animal. Who know, when the new DSLRs come out they may have the new XQD card slot.

Not sure why you posted this if you didn't want to hear what everyone else had to say. Somebody will get a real bargain buying your camera, so something good comes out of this.

EDIT: If you shine a flashlight into the slot you can see the two spring loaded prongs that are causing the friction. They engage with the notches in the XQD cards.

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BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA

It does not reply directly to the OP's question. You took this discussion away from his specific post. If you want your own topic then post it as yours.

Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)

I posted it because of what you wrote:
"Besides, how many more times does the OP need to be told his 'issue' is a normal function of the camera. If he doesn't believe it by now he will return the camera."
We don't all have the same thing. This is not "a normal function of the camera"There is an "Issue" - I cannot pull the card out, it is physically being stopped by something. It is not being held by friction. Why do I have to believe everyone who says (Paraphrasing) "Just pull harder". I'm not a "Newbie" and while I appreciate suggestions, at some point people are going to have to come to the conclusion that there actually is something wrong inside of the camera. My original post asked if anyone had any suggestions. Pull harder does not work.
The camera goes back today - with the card inside.