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Aug 17, 2019 01:54:59   #
terpfan Loc: central coast, California
 
Thank you all for your excellent advice. I obviously have not made up my mind what to do, but you have given me many things to consider, some I hadn't even thought of. That's exactly what I was hoping for.

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Aug 17, 2019 06:11:19   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
terpfan wrote:
This got dropped from today's posts so I'll try again. I am going to Europe this fall, Venice to Rome. I have a Canon 7D II with 24-105 and 70-300L. I'm looking to lighten my load while maintaining image quality. Am I better off with a Tamron 18-400 ($650) or a Sony Rx 10 IV ($1700)? I guess what I'm asking is, does the better lens on the Sony offset the smaller sensor size on the Sony? How much does the APSC sensor on the Canon with the Tamron 18-400 make up for the 1 inch sensor on the Sony? Thanks in advance for you opinions.
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I have a friend that uses only that Sony for all his photos from landscape to birds and sells his work. Small compact with the Zeiss 24-600MM and tact sharp even at 600. We shoot together and I can't tell you how many shots I missed with my 5D swapping out lens. I may not be as wide as you like but for a small camera it is damn good. Even has built in watercolor and some others and again, does it well.

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Aug 17, 2019 06:32:23   #
Ollieboy
 
Ched49 wrote:
I hate to be the "odd man" in this discussion but I'll go for the Sony RX10 1V, you wont be losing much if any in the image quality dept. and with the 24-600 equiv. lens, it will outperform the new lens for your Canon. I'm a firm believer in keeping the load light while on vacation. There isn't any photographic situation that the RX10 1V doesn't do well and when your vacation is over, the Sony will still a fun camera to shoot with.


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Aug 17, 2019 07:10:13   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Both cameras are capable of giving you beautiful pictures. Would you prefer to travel with a DSLR and a long, heavy lens, or with a compact camera?

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Aug 17, 2019 07:16:59   #
LXK0930 Loc: Souh Jersey
 
I think that some of the responders are smoking something! How is the Sony RX10 a lightweight camera? It as as big and heavy as many DSLR's!

If you really want light weight, try something like a Canon S120. For more versatility, the Sony RX100 is generally considered best-in-class.

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Aug 17, 2019 07:20:27   #
djlouden Loc: Ocala, Florida
 
For what it's worth. My vote goes to taking the 7D II and the 24-105. I own both. Save the $1700 for another purchase when G.A.S. gets the best of you.

Check out this thread going on now

https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-606175-1.html

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Aug 17, 2019 07:29:18   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
LXK0930 wrote:
I think that some of the responders are smoking something! How is the Sony RX10 a lightweight camera? It as as big and heavy as many DSLR's!

If you really want light weight, try something like a Canon S120. For more versatility, the Sony RX100 is generally considered best-in-class.


Maybe you didn't eat your Wheaties or not anticipate the weight of the DSLR with a 400- 600 telephoto on it. It looks and feels like a toy compared to my 5D.

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Aug 17, 2019 07:48:47   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Definitely go with the wide angle. Also, if your model has the multi-shot hand-held low-light function, familiarize yourself with that. It really allows some photos in places in which you could never get them otherwise.

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Aug 17, 2019 07:50:22   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Unless you will be on the trip all by yourself, let a person traveling with you help out by carrying some of your camera equipment to lighten the load for you. Acquire a second camera bag if necessary. Not only will this save you a lot of money, but you won't need to familiarize yourself with new camera and lens.


AND - if that second poerson is your wife you will REALLY lighten your load when she decides to leave you behind!

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Aug 17, 2019 08:12:23   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
Do you really want to carry around heavy equipment? You want to enjoy the trip. Get the Sony and you’ll have it for future trips.

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Aug 17, 2019 08:13:07   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
sb wrote:
AND - if that second poerson is your wife you will REALLY lighten your load when she decides to leave you behind!


Love the response.

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Aug 17, 2019 08:15:11   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
terpfan wrote:
This got dropped from today's posts so I'll try again. I am going to Europe this fall, Venice to Rome. I have a Canon 7D II with 24-105 and 70-300L. I'm looking to lighten my load while maintaining image quality. Am I better off with a Tamron 18-400 ($650) or a Sony Rx 10 IV ($1700)? I guess what I'm asking is, does the better lens on the Sony offset the smaller sensor size on the Sony? How much does the APSC sensor on the Canon with the Tamron 18-400 make up for the 1 inch sensor on the Sony? Thanks in advance for you opinions.
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I will repeat my previous comment on this - - The Sony RX10 IV is very, very hard to beat in a travel scenerio !!
And, yes it has a GREAT lens and convenience - otherwise it is a toss-up with the 7D for overall technical qualities - with the Tamron lens - IMO.

If I were you taking the 7D, I would get a Sigma 17-70 to go with the 70-300L for the best technical qualities - the 24-105 is NOT wide enough ....but of course it can work if you stitch multiple images - but I still like wide for quick simplicity and sometimes the perspective it gives....
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Aug 17, 2019 08:21:45   #
wireloose
 
Agree on the wide angle. I would look at the canon 10-22, used on Amazon they are under $250 and it’s a much better lens than the 10-18. It will give you the equivalent of 16-35mm which is a very useful range.

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Aug 17, 2019 08:56:07   #
catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
 
terpfan wrote:
This got dropped from today's posts so I'll try again. I am going to Europe this fall, Venice to Rome. I have a Canon 7D II with 24-105 and 70-300L. I'm looking to lighten my load while maintaining image quality. Am I better off with a Tamron 18-400 ($650) or a Sony Rx 10 IV ($1700)? I guess what I'm asking is, does the better lens on the Sony offset the smaller sensor size on the Sony? How much does the APSC sensor on the Canon with the Tamron 18-400 make up for the 1 inch sensor on the Sony? Thanks in advance for you opinions.
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Forget all the unnecessary gear,

If you do not want to be a target, or stand out for thieves, and want to capture true street type vacation images, forget the Canon gear, forget the Sony gear... and all those heavy lenses...

Consider something like a fixed lens Fugi X100f. Compact and easy to use, the perfect lens size, 6000x4000pixel images, outstanding sensor resolution, an unbelievable leaf shutter and only $1200. At f2 it is the ultimate indoor camera.

The youtube articles are endless praising this iconic camera. I can assure you that once you start to use it you will be so amazed, you will never leave home without it.

It is so good, that it could pull off a professional shoot by itself if needed.

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Aug 17, 2019 09:14:20   #
olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida
 
I'm not a Canon DSRL guy, but for a trip like that I think the best wide to tele would see more use, or a wide prime and short to med. telephoto. The 24-105 range sounds like a great choice.

If you are happy with the images you get from the Tamron 18-400, use it and take a wide prime or even another smaller wide to tele (sharpest one you have or can afford) for backup - if not happy with it, then a change is in order. I'm a big time telephoto type myself, but have recently been enjoying a nice little 18-105 I picked up and repaired (bad mount)....and it is doing a nice job on the things where I don't need extreme reach .

If you are looking for a good reason (we don't need no stinking good reasons) to acquire the Sony, you probably want one, so go ahead and buy it and get to know it ahead of the trip. They have a fine rep and folks like them, you probably will too. If Momma and I were going to trip all over Europe, I'd be tempted to go with the smaller form factor, esp. if it fits in a larger pocket. I'd gladly take my D71 or 7200 and a wide to tele, but the smaller camera for a trip is inviting.
my$.02

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