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Aug 15, 2019 18:29:04   #
MonetDIY
 
TriX wrote:
And that could be the problem with your sharpness issue. Ultra wide range zooms are convenient, but a compromise in terms of both speed and sharpness. And inexpensive zooms are never going to deliver max sharpness. If max sharpness is your goal, then you need to limit yourself to either a limited zoom range (like 3:1) or primes, and buy high quality (probably expensive) lenses. Also, since you mentioned shooting paintings, you should consider a “flat field” prime lens. Since I’m a Canon shooter, I’ll let a Nikon guy suggest the appropriate lens, but it sounds like your lens or your technique is the issue, not your body.
And that could be the problem with your sharpness ... (show quote)


Much appreciated critique and guidance! Definitely interested in suggestions for a ikon flat field prime lens for shooting 2D artwork. Thanks :)

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Aug 15, 2019 18:30:52   #
MonetDIY
 
FYI, just watched this comparison between the Nikon Z6 and Sony a7iii: https://youtu.be/dPTKuu1zpsE

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Aug 15, 2019 19:00:05   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
MonetDIY wrote:
Much appreciated critique and guidance! Definitely interested in suggestions for a ikon flat field prime lens for shooting 2D artwork. Thanks :)


Nikon guys, what say you? The 105 f2.8 Micro Nikkor or something different for a flat field prime for shooting artwork?

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Aug 15, 2019 19:28:06   #
MonetDIY
 
TriX wrote:
Nikon guys, what say you? The 105 f2.8 Micro Nikkor or something different for a flat field prime for shooting artwork?


I have old but mint NIKKOR 50mm and 105mm lenses I used to shoot w my FE2. Ideal for shooting flat artwork with a Z6 or a7iii?

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Aug 16, 2019 07:58:46   #
tomcat
 
cygone wrote:
I've decided to sell all my Nikon to KEH except for my D850 and 5 prime lenses. And will get the Sony A7iii and a couple of primes. I'm thinking of trying the system for a few months and then just sell off the rest of my Nikons and spend that on more glass. At 72 I just feel this is the way to go. And I believe that mirrorless is the foreseeable future. Plus my Granddaughter is using mirrorless and she wants nothing to do with DSLRs. I'm sure I will be taking a loss as opposed to selling private but I've got 30 something items and I just don't look forward to selling private from past experience. Does anyone have experience dealing with KEH? They seem like a good company to deal with
I've decided to sell all my Nikon to KEH except fo... (show quote)


I am 71 now, but at age 65, I tried adapting to Sony's menu system and gave up. There are just too many menu items to keep up with and it is a whole lot more archaic than Nikon and just too many options. When I would inadvertently change a function, it took me too long to set it back and by then the shot was gone. So I sold it. I'm just saying that at your age, you maybe should rent a Sony first and see if you like learning all over again. Sony has a very steep learning curve. With a Nikon Z6 camera, the Nikon menus are about the same and you can get just the one adapter for your lenses. A recent DxO test showed the Z6 to be an excellent low-light camera (in the same category as the D3s--which makes it a camera for me), better than anything that Nikon has in low light.

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Aug 16, 2019 08:13:33   #
tomcat
 
MonetDIY wrote:
FYI, just watched this comparison between the Nikon Z6 and Sony a7iii: https://youtu.be/dPTKuu1zpsE


Wow. This is a very impressive capability of the Nikon Z6 in low light. I shoot high school sports at 10-12,000 ISO in very dim gyms and the eye shots at 12,800 were spectacular---no grain was visible at that high magnification. Before any of us Nikon shooters joins the Sony bandwagon, they should take a look at this video.

The low light capability of the Z6 is also available in the latest DxO testing, putting the Z6 in the same ballpark as the legendary Nikon D3s.

Thanks for sharing.

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Aug 16, 2019 10:43:49   #
GPS Phil Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
tomcat wrote:
I am 71 now, but at age 65, I tried adapting to Sony's menu system and gave up. There are just too many menu items to keep up with and it is a whole lot more archaic than Nikon and just too many options. When I would inadvertently change a function, it took me too long to set it back and by then the shot was gone. So I sold it. I'm just saying that at your age, you maybe should rent a Sony first and see if you like learning all over again. Sony has a very steep learning curve. With a Nikon Z6 camera, the Nikon menus are about the same and you can get just the one adapter for your lenses. A recent DxO test showed the Z6 to be an excellent low-light camera (in the same category as the D3s--which makes it a camera for me), better than anything that Nikon has in low light.
I am 71 now, but at age 65, I tried adapting to So... (show quote)


I went through the same thing with the Olympus m5 mII. In many ways a wonderful little camera, there was so much about it that I liked. Having said that, after 9 months I realized that at 79, I didn't have enough time left to master their menu system. I sold it and purchased the Z6, for me it was like coming home. For the type of shooting that I do it is a joy. I also have a Df and a D7100 and the Z6 fits in like an old family member!

Phil

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Aug 16, 2019 10:56:33   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Sony and Olympus both make some incredibly fine equipment, but for many, their menu systems cannot hold a candle to Canon, Nikon, and Panasonic menu systems. I've tried them all, and I'm comfortable with the latter three, while annoyed and frustrated by the Sony and Olympus menus.

I would, of course, mention that whatever tools you use, you get used to the way THEY work, so anything similar seems easy to master. After driving Toyotas since 1977, I get very frustrated by American cars, because all the controls work differently. They do the same things, but they're backwards from what I'm used to!

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Aug 16, 2019 11:56:53   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
MonetDIY wrote:
FYI, just watched this comparison between the Nikon Z6 and Sony a7iii: https://youtu.be/dPTKuu1zpsE


Interesting video

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Aug 16, 2019 12:17:00   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
repleo wrote:
Going to a FF mirrorless is not going to save you much weight or bulk, especially if you use long lenses a lot.
The Sony FE 28mm F2.0 and FE 50mm f1.8 are very light and compact, but the G and GMaster lenses are pretty heavy.
If you really want to save weight, go with one of the A6xxx series bodies and the APS-C lenses.


For those of you who do not think going mirrorless will save in weight and size, here are a few pictures, for, as they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. Both cameras are APS-C. The lens on the Nikon is 16-80.2.8-4. The lens on the Sony is 16-70/4.


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Aug 16, 2019 12:37:51   #
MonetDIY
 
Comparison of top mirrorless DSLRs. Nikon Z6 vs Canon EOS RP vs Sony a7iii. All good but distinct differences laid out here:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm

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Aug 16, 2019 12:39:14   #
MonetDIY
 
Comparison of top mirrorless DSLRs. Nikon Z6 vs Canon EOS RP vs Sony a7iii. All good but distinct differences laid out here:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm

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Aug 16, 2019 13:32:41   #
GrandmaG Loc: Flat Rock, MI
 
MonetDIY wrote:
Comparison of top mirrorless DSLRs. Nikon Z6 vs Canon EOS RP vs Sony a7iii. All good but distinct differences laid out here:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/comparisons/nikon-vs-canon-vs-sony-full-frame.htm


Interesting; but the OP is going from DSLR to mirrorless. Also, the last picture in your link shows a Sony a9, not the Sony a7iii.

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Aug 16, 2019 15:23:59   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Say what you want about mirrorless cameras...smaller size, less weight, I still prefer the comfort putting my hands around a rounded off DSLR. All mirrorless cameras look like they were carved out of a block of wood.

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Aug 16, 2019 15:49:12   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Ched49 wrote:
All mirrorless cameras look like they were carved out of a block of wood.


No, they don't. Try the Panasonic G9 or GH5. They have a classic SLR shape and feel in hand.

As for smaller size and weight, maybe the BODY is lighter, but an APS-C lens is an APS-C lens, and a full frame lens is a full frame lens.

You have to compare apples to apples. An f/4 lens will be smaller and lighter than an f/2.8-4 lens of the same zoom range. Shorter lenses are lighter, so smaller formats use lighter lenses for the same field of view...

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