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Jul 20, 2019 03:58:58   #
Archiefamous Loc: Manhattan
 
Just purchased a beautiful 400mm 3.5 ais manual focus lens to use with d800. Works perfectly fine in aperture priority mode as it should. Is there any reason not to use auto iso in manual mode? Will experiment later today.

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Jul 20, 2019 04:18:22   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Archiefamous wrote:
Just purchased a beautiful 400mm 3.5 ais manual focus lens to use with d800. Works perfectly fine in aperture priority mode as it should. Is there any reason not to use auto iso in manual mode? Will experiment later today.

Though I’ve never had a reason to use auto ISO, I see no reason why you cannot. Wouldn’t mind owning that lens myself.

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Jul 20, 2019 05:20:42   #
cameraf4 Loc: Delaware
 
The auto ISO feature is a feature of your camera, not the lens. If your lens/camera combo work in aperture priority, then the Auto ISO feature should work as well.

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Jul 20, 2019 06:00:32   #
John Sh Loc: Toronto, Australia
 
"I’ve never had a reason to use auto ISO"
I was like you until I read Steve Perry's books. Auto ISO is one of those things that makes life so much easier, especially in rapidly changing light conditions. It is not suitable for flash photography. Give it a go, you might be surprised.

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Jul 20, 2019 06:21:01   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
A 400mm prime lens, f3.5, in a Nikon ais series or even the latest model, is a big plus. Your camera is suited for it too. Using auto ISO is an option that DSLRs have today. It wasn't available on a Nikon SLR. If, you got a good deal on it, which I'm sure you did. You may be able to live without Auto ISO. But, I don't know why you can't use it? I had in my hands, a 400mm Canon "L" lens that a NFL pro photographer showed me a few years ago. But, it was f2.8, and pretty heavy as well. Enjoy your Nikon Legacy lens.

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Jul 20, 2019 06:25:37   #
Archiefamous Loc: Manhattan
 
Thanks for all your input. Anxious to get out and use my old manual focus skills. Perhaps I’ll dust my F2as off as well

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Jul 20, 2019 06:27:07   #
nimbushopper Loc: Tampa, FL
 
I use manual with auto ISO 95% of the time beause I like to choose the fstop/shutter speed. You can set the ISO limits on the low and high end.

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Jul 20, 2019 06:33:50   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
There are times when auto ISO is not suitable and will raise the ISO to the limit you set, this usually happens in low light such as night photography or early or late evening photography. When this happens you will find more noise in your image than you want. I usually take it off auto ISO in the late evening or early morning and either lower my shutter speed or increase the aperture or both.

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Jul 20, 2019 07:01:41   #
srt101fan
 
Brucej67 wrote:
There are times when auto ISO is not suitable and will raise the ISO to the limit you set, this usually happens in low light such as night photography or early or late evening photography. When this happens you will find more noise in your image than you want. I usually take it off auto ISO in the late evening or early morning and either lower my shutter speed or increase the aperture or both.


Bruce, your concern that Auto ISO can raise ISO to unacceptable levels has also been expressed by others in UHH discussions on Auto ISO.

But why turn Auto ISO off, when all you have to do is watch the ISO value selected by the camera. If it goes too high, you change shutter and/or aperture, or you abort. Depending on the type of photograph, supplemental lighting might also be an option. You still have total control, no?

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Jul 20, 2019 08:44:33   #
BebuLamar
 
If you leave one or more parameters for the camera to choose and not monitor it then there will be time it set those parameter to extreme that you don't want.
I want the auto ISO to raise when it's dark. That's the purpose of auto ISO. What choice do I have? Picture with high ISO or no picture.

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Jul 20, 2019 12:54:23   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
John Sh wrote:
"I’ve never had a reason to use auto ISO"
I was like you until I read Steve Perry's books. Auto ISO is one of those things that makes life so much easier, especially in rapidly changing light conditions. It is not suitable for flash photography. Give it a go, you might be surprised.

I understand its purpose, and agree there are times when it can be useful. I tend to use a particular feature when the need arises, rather than to create a need just to use it.

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Jul 20, 2019 22:55:18   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
RWR wrote:
I understand its purpose, and agree there are times when it can be useful. I tend to use a particular feature when the need arises, rather than to create a need just to use it.

Pentax has a 'TAv' mode which they describe as being equivalent to 'M' mode with auto ISO. I don't have to contrive a need for it; I use it regularly when photographing wildlife, because it allows me to control both shutter speed and aperture while still keeping the 'exposure triangle' satisfied.

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Jul 20, 2019 23:55:27   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
rehess wrote:
Pentax has a 'TAv' mode which they describe as being equivalent to 'M' mode with auto ISO. I don't have to contrive a need for it; I use it regularly when photographing wildlife, because it allows me to control both shutter speed and aperture while still keeping the 'exposure triangle' satisfied.

I’m pretty sure a situation will come up when I’ll be happy to use it.

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Jul 21, 2019 09:04:57   #
odujim Loc: New Jersey
 
cameraf4 wrote:
The auto ISO feature is a feature of your camera, not the lens. If your lens/camera combo work in aperture priority, then the Auto ISO feature should work as well.



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Jul 21, 2019 12:59:28   #
htbrown Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
 
Archiefamous wrote:
Is there any reason not to use auto iso in manual mode?


Doesn't that defeat the purpose of manual mode? Consider this scenario:

Photog takes a picture.
Photog: Hmm, that's too dark. I'll open up the aperture.
Camera: Hmm, that's going to be too light. I'll adjust the ISO.

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