dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia

There should be classes on cellphone photography. And they should be taught by someone who understands the subject before they agree to teach the course. The OP is clearly unprepared. Assuming the OP is an actual person and not a bot.

Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida

Welcome Ms. Connors. Before I attempted to assist you I went to the search box and looked for past posts on this topic.....didn't find much. Many questions fill my head as I consider your query. Most of us here have been with cameras for more than a half century. So the advent of Cell-phones replacing our beloved DSLRs is The Elephant in the Room and some members will not be receptive to that possibility......ever. What did you think would happen when you arrived at The Biker bar on your bicycle or The October Fest and ordered a glass of Chardonnay? Ha ha.

Clearly , the new phones are amazing and take excellent pictures and are more affordable than some of the cameras we use on this site. And yes, the technology is expanding for the phones to where they will soon be approaching our status and that frightens us.

I guess the question I should be asking is why our cameras do not already have cell phones within them?
They already have touch screen , GPS, WiFi & programmable protocols......right? Maybe sometime in the near future that question will be a reality. Who knew?

Given your obvious ability I would suggest you create a new area of the website on this very topic and you should clear that with the account managers on the blog...of course. And I would recommend that your class-participants conduct your experiments on the subject and you post their findings periodically on this site where we can get a better understanding for the industry and where it's headed.

I am sorry some did not treat your question with kindness and I will certainly welcome your future discoveries as time progresses . Good luck with your classes.

Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts

If you are pixel peeping then of course the DSLR will Win but your argument gets destroyed by all the IPhone ads on billboards. They were all shot with an IPhone.

Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida

ABSOLUTELY.........IT WILL HAPPEN sooner or later. People need to embrace it not beat it to death....ahahahaa !

Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida

AMEN BROTHER

aellman Loc: Boston MA

There's (at least) one in every thread. Don't let them get to you. >Alan

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

I have often been embarrassed and angered by some responders’ passive aggressive and outright nasty responses in a forum that claims to be supportive and informative. There is no reason to be nasty or belittling to anyone asking a question. IMO, anyone who does has no place here.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

See attached graph (source: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm )

Iphone 7: DR=7.5, Low light ISO=45
Canon 5D4: DR=10.8, Low light ISO=5011

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

I suspect that Ms. Connors has left the room.
She was new to posting and got a lot of flak from her question.
Were I in that situation I were not here now.

olemikey Loc: 6 mile creek, Spacecoast Florida

Hi Gail and welcome aboard! First, use "Quote Reply" so we know who you are addressing, it just gets confusing if you don't. While I am of the "It's not the tool, it's the photog who makes a fine pic" ilk, you stepped onto a yellow jacket nest (by the way, never do that, mad Yellow Jackets provide for a bad experience) with the phone versus camera deal. If you have been here long you have already seen the arguments over DSLR VS MILC cameras, primes versus zooms, brand versus brand, etc. It is an argumentative and sometimes "soap box" group!!

The phones become more amazing as time passes, plus they are subsidized, and are a giveaway or nearly with some phone plans. Yes, they will take a fine shot if you know photography (esp. lighting and composition) but in general they serve their clients well "as is", as a snapshot and share social device. Pics shared on small phone screens don't look much different from those taken by a 42MP DSLR, so many phone photogs don't even realize the difference. It is an argument that will go on.

The nice (to me) feature with a camera is that you don't need or require a "phone plan" to operate, and NO you don't need one to use a camera phone, but then why would anyone pay hundreds for what you'd get in general, w/o the phone capabilities (a walking/talking/internet computer capable communication platform isn't enough?), another point-n-shoot camera. Some P&S cameras have been quite good, but they have lost market share to the point of being ignored.

Learning to use the phone camera to the best of it's ability should be a goal for anyone who uses them, but many just want the convenience and don't really care about the rest.

Anyway, welcome aboard, enjoy and share your experiences, and Kudo's for caring!
olemikey

rdoc Loc: Rochester, MN

Don't let the nay-sayers get you down. As my grandpa often said, "He'd complain if he were hanged with a new rope!" There is a way to criticize or disagree without being snarky.

aellman Loc: Boston MA

I am so with you!

aellman Loc: Boston MA

Impressive. If it were all about specifications, this would be a simple discussion. It's not. >Alan

wmontgomery Loc: Louisiana

Thank you Robert.
This very thing is why I rarely contribute. Unless I missed something this was a person asking a question for the first time here. So she doesn’t understand reply and reply quote. I don’t see why name calling is necessary.
I would hope she will return.

aellman Loc: Boston MA

Sadly, you have to have a thick skin to participate here. >Alan