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Jul 18, 2019 15:10:33   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
burkphoto wrote:
PBS has been running all sorts of retrospective documentaries on space this week. I've watched them all, reliving that moment in 1969 (not 2069... typos forgiven) in my parents' living room, watching it all unfold.


typos forgiven ... that's because you're not a troll. Eyes and fingers don't work like they use to. Thanks.

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Jul 18, 2019 15:21:35   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
AJFRED wrote:
The answer is yes. I was part of a NASA support team that helped design purpose-built TV devices and circuitry that we tested at extreme temps, film that survived operating in a vacuum, and rough and tumble vibration on the way.




The sheer volume of technological advances and technological influences brought forth by the 1960s space program is astounding. There were devices on the Apollo missions that few outside the space program or the military knew existed — or would have understood — back then. Those advances and influences were MAJOR benefits of the effort. It cost billions, but we got trillions back in benefits to the world economy.

Not only did the cameras have to withstand ridiculous temperatures, but the astronauts' suits had to do so as well. In fact, everything in space has to be built to rather challenging thermal specifications!

The fact that, not just the three guys in the capsule, but the thousands on the ground who put them up there, did it AT ALL back then is amazing. No doubt some people with little knowledge can't believe it.

Yes, we had solid state devices in 1969. Some of the first primitive integrated circuits were in the flea-powered computer in the LEM. Yet many of the calculations made on earth were still being done with slide rules back then...

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Jul 18, 2019 15:24:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
typos forgiven ... that's because you're not a troll. Eyes and fingers don't work like they use to. Thanks.


I got a kick out of it because I sometimes write 1919 on my checks! I wasn't born until '55.

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Jul 18, 2019 16:02:21   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
rmalarz wrote:
Harry, the earth can't be flat. If it were, cats would push everything off the edge.

Cat owners will appreciate this sentiment.
--Bob


Very true.

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Jul 18, 2019 16:14:58   #
Anhanga Brasil Loc: Cabo Frio - Brazil
 
burkphoto wrote:


The sheer volume of technological advances and technological influences brought forth by the 1960s space program is astounding. There were devices on the Apollo missions that few outside the space program or the military knew existed — or would have understood — back then. Those advances and influences were MAJOR benefits of the effort. It cost billions, but we got trillions back in benefits to the world economy.

Not only did the cameras have to withstand ridiculous temperatures, but the astronauts' suits had to do so as well. In fact, everything in space has to be built to rather challenging thermal specifications!

The fact that, not just the three guys in the capsule, but the thousands on the ground who put them up there, did it AT ALL back then is amazing. No doubt some people with little knowledge can't believe it.

Yes, we had solid state devices in 1969. Some of the first primitive integrated circuits were in the flea-powered computer in the LEM. Yet many of the calculations made on earth were still being done with slide rules back then...
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I would be glad to be enlightened. "The fact that, not just the three guys in the capsule, but the thousands on the ground who put them up there, did it AT ALL back then is amazing. No doubt some people with little knowledge can't believe it." I understand as a FACT, not because I did watch to all the
endeavor back in 1969 but because you said so. And I read Jules Verne, who knew that the
temperatures out here would be extreme and, yet, sent those men to the Moon in his books.
Peace.

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Jul 18, 2019 17:38:05   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
I know it happened because I met people who were directly involved with the program. I was present at the launch of Apollo 12 in November of 1969. The weather was awful that day... They were lucky to find a break in the clouds and go within the launch time window. The sound of that Saturn V shook the ground and pounded us in our chests.

There are plenty of photographic analyses that prove the moon landings could not have been faked in a studio. With the sun 93 million miles away, it is a point source of highly specular light that forms extremely sharp shadows. Those shadows cannot be duplicated with movie lights on a set.

Jules Verne wrote fiction. He did have some scientific knowledge, but made no claim to its authenticity.

It will be very interesting to see whether Americans have the political will to fund NASA to the extent it will take to go back to the moon and on to Mars. We have a "space industrial complex" supported by a small group of Southern politicians because it employs tens of thousands of folks in their states. This funding/R&D/execution model used since the 1960s and '70s may not be the one we need. Musk and Bezos and other space entrepreneurs may need to move to Texas and Alabama to get things done for GovCo.

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Jul 19, 2019 07:20:37   #
Collhar Loc: New York City.
 
controversy wrote:
Ooh, I'm defeated and surrender to your intellect and eloquence.


I wanted to make a colloquial observation. I thought it was understood that a option is: A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
So sorry to have offended you.

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Jul 19, 2019 09:56:40   #
controversy Loc: Wuhan, China
 
Collhar wrote:
I wanted to make a colloquial observation. I thought it was understood that a option is: A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
So sorry to have offended you.


Thanks, but it seems you didn't actually watch the video link in my post -- it's based on fact and knowledge.

Here it is again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs

And here's an examination of the photos done by Nvidia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9y_AVYMEUs

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Jul 19, 2019 13:38:09   #
Abo
 
rmalarz wrote:
It would be if it weren't accomplished in a film studio located in Area 51, directed by none other than Stanley Kubrick.
--Bob


Are you saying you do not believe Armstrong and Aldrin walked on the moon?

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