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Jul 21, 2019 14:57:22   #
Dale Evans - Amaetur Loc: Baton Rouge, La
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Now I can understand you and where you're coming from. If Wikipedia is your source of authoritative information you're walking a very crooked path. It not a reliable source as it is written and edited by its users.


Said by the man who has never read the footnotes on a Wilki page.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:09:26   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Dale Evans - Amaetur wrote:
Said by the man who has never read the footnotes on a Wilki page.


Guilty

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Jul 21, 2019 15:17:09   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Excellent analogy!!!

--Bob
[quote=Rich1939]
dwermske wrote:
BS, /quote]

An analogy: Though often called sheet music, this is not by itself “music”. This requires an instrument to enable people to hear the music. This score is akin to a image “data file” in that both require an “instrument” to interpret the information before people can appreciate what is written.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:28:34   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
[quote=Rich1939]
dwermske wrote:
BS, /quote]

An analogy: Though often called sheet music, this is not by itself “music”. This requires an instrument to enable people to hear the music. This score is akin to a image “data file” in that both require an “instrument” to interpret the information before people can appreciate what is written.


Good analogy in general, but I know at least two people who can look at a sheet of music and hear it. I am not one of them, and I will admit that it is a rare talent.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:31:12   #
BebuLamar
 
[quote=Rich1939]
dwermske wrote:
BS, /quote]

An analogy: Though often called sheet music, this is not by itself “music”. This requires an instrument to enable people to hear the music. This score is akin to a image “data file” in that both require an “instrument” to interpret the information before people can appreciate what is written.


And that versus a recording of an musical performance while you need a player, and amplifier and speakers to play it, it's the music that's already been made. The player, amplifier and speakers only need to reproduce the music as faithfully as possible and there is no interpretation needed.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:34:57   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
And that versus a recording of an musical performance while you need a player, and amplifier and speakers to play it, it's the music that's already been made.

But the conductor does make a difference.

Same thing with Director in musical theatre - the {zany}"Guys and Dolls" we saw "off Broadway" was very different from the {done to script} "Guys and Dolls" we saw a couple years later by a local high school.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:50:10   #
BebuLamar
 
rehess wrote:
But the conductor does make a difference.

Same thing with Director in musical theatre - the {zany}"Guys and Dolls" we saw "off Broadway" was very different from the {done to script} "Guys and Dolls" we saw a couple years later by a local high school.


I meant the score is different from a recording. The recording is fixed like JPEG. The score is like a RAW that needs to be performed by musicians and conducted by the conductor. Depending on the creative idea of the conductor and musician the score can be performed quite differently.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:53:33   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I meant the score is different from a recording. The recording is fixed like JPEG. The score is like a RAW that needs to be performed by musicians and conducted by the conductor. Depending on the creative idea of the conductor and musician the score can be performed quite differently.

That is exactly what I meant also - the artist can reflect reality or s/he can do whatever reflects his/her mood.

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Jul 21, 2019 15:55:24   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Dale Evans - Amaetur wrote:
Said by the man who has never read the footnotes on a Wilki page.



Okay, I wasn't sure which of us you were referring to so, I looked
and stopped reading after this:

"WIKIPEDIA MAKES NO GUARANTEE OF VALIDITY

Wikipedia is an online open-content collaborative encyclopedia; that is, a voluntary association of individuals and groups working to develop a common resource of human knowledge. The structure of the project allows anyone with an Internet connection to alter its content. Please be advised that nothing found here has necessarily been reviewed by people with the expertise required to provide you with complete, accurate or reliable information.

That is not to say that you will not find valuable and accurate information in Wikipedia; much of the time you will. However, Wikipedia cannot guarantee the validity of the information found here. The content of any given article may recently have been changed, vandalized or altered by someone whose opinion does not correspond with the state of knowledge in the relevant fields. Note that most other encyclopedias and reference works also have disclaimers. "

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Jul 21, 2019 16:26:17   #
Dale Evans - Amaetur Loc: Baton Rouge, La
 
If the proofs agree with the data then one can assume that the data is correct.

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Jul 21, 2019 17:34:08   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Dale Evans - Amaetur wrote:
If the proofs agree with the data then one can assume that the data is correct.

I'm sorry but again I don't know what you're referring to

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Jul 21, 2019 20:24:31   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
Rich1939 wrote:
An analogy: Though often called sheet music, this is not by itself “music”. This requires an instrument to enable people to hear the music. This score is akin to a image “data file” in that both require an “instrument” to interpret the information before people can appreciate what is written.


That is true for all file formats.

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Jul 21, 2019 20:49:06   #
BebuLamar
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
That is true for all file formats.


OK Have you ever sent a RAW file to a printing service for prints?

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Jul 21, 2019 20:58:37   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
BebuLamar wrote:
OK Have you ever sent a RAW file to a printing service for prints?


No. There are hundreds of file formats that are not commonly accepted by print services.

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Jul 21, 2019 21:19:43   #
BebuLamar
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
No. There are hundreds of file formats that are not commonly accepted by print services.


OK!

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