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Jul 16, 2019 08:23:31   #
superdadplano Loc: Dallas, TX
 
Gene51 wrote:
I don't have an A6000, or an RX10M7, but I do have an RX10M4.

I am not going to persuade you one way or the other. But I will attach a few images to help you make an informed decision. For me, it's the most versatile camera I have ever owned. I currently shoot with a D800 and a D810, with lenses that range from 14mm to 600mm. I don't miss the larger sensor that much. I think I'd miss a cropped sensor even less.But that's me.

_DSC0275-DSC-RX10M4--(10-12-17) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0061-DSC-RX10M3--(28-11-17) high res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3278-DSC-RX10M4--(22-11-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2863-DSC-RX10M4--(19-08-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2793-DSC-RX10M4--(23-05-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2771-DSC-RX10M4--(23-05-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2145-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2153-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2145-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3622-DSC-RX10M4--(17-12-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3649-DSC-RX10M4--(17-12-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0740 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0571 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr
I don't have an A6000, or an RX10M7, but I do have... (show quote)


Awesome pix Gene. Your pictures speak volume! I have the RX10 II and loved it.

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Jul 16, 2019 08:45:48   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
I want to debunk the RX10 III (my version) that doesnt have a great lens. Surprise it surprised me.
It is a bridge camera with one of the best lens ever made. The 24 600 works very well. Just look at some images here. I have used it for difficult sports like soccer flat on the field with players. A trip on a cruise ship
a shoot for a client at NASCAR track. He wanted footage without a press pass. A presentation in an auditorium at a university sitting stage right first row. Never left my seat. Did stand a bit to shoot crowd in seats etc. We know about the focus problem with the early models. Only happens once in a well distance when it is a dark shot. Just switch to manual or reset camera. I shoot a lot of video. This camera is a great video camera. 45K. Great! I would rate this camera one of the great innovations in photography history.

Now I have the a6000 and liked it. Got the a6300 and just shot a few test shots around the house outside FL is colorful. Video and stills. Look at the monitor on camera and couldnt believe how good the shots and video looked. Ran in the house loaded into my iMac to see if Sony tricked up the software. The images and video looked so good. Wow.
Now let's get this in reality. I was in advertising in studios with all the big expensive camera's. Had many Nikons from film up to the D800 my last. Love Nikon for the experiences. I admire color science of Canon.
I have the a7s II with some good lens. Sony has been making great cameras as a technology company.
And they have changed the game. I respect a lot of wonderful camera film cameras and studio cameras that are wonderful and better in some ways. Just spend a year with the
RX10 III and up series any one of them.

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Jul 16, 2019 11:05:02   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
I think Xanadu, you are mixing apples and oranges?

I favor to travel with the Sony RX10 IV or even the similar Panasonic ZS1000 - 1" sensor, 20 megapixel, EVF and a fully articulated screen camera because:

You don't have to change lenses.

On the other hand, the Sony a6000 (or Sony a6400) can give you much larger sensor (APS-C) slightly more (25) megapixels and a reasonably good choice of high quality (relatively expensive) interchangeble fixed focus lenses or zooms. Not to mention the fastest focusing, eye focusing, face recognition and a silent shutter.
Think, what is important to you.
With a tilting ONLY screen.

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Jul 16, 2019 11:20:49   #
Walt C
 
I have several expensive Nikons and about $8,000 in lens. I purchased a Sony RX10 IV. One super camera for traveling and even BIF. If the new Sony RXs are better that would be all the better. It is hard for me to get back to my Nikons for general use

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Jul 16, 2019 12:37:25   #
azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
 
I have the original RX-10, and have been trying to best it for about 5 years with the Nex-7, Olympus OMDEM-5, Pen-F, and Sony A7ii and A6300. To my amazement, nothing is able to beat the RX-10. The images are sharp, and the colors are bright. I credit the combination of the 1" sensor and the Zeiss lens design. I have tried almost every Sony lens, and am still not beating the images from the RX-10. Now I do not blow up my images to print them, but I do blow them up and crop, and have never had a problem. If I did not have such an investment in other bodies and lenses, I would purchase the RX-10iv to complement the original!

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Jul 16, 2019 13:04:38   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Xanadu wrote:
I am entertaining a Sony RX10vii and eliminating my Sony A6000 w/18-55, 55-210 lenses. We can all read the specs. However, I am interested in your opinions. Good idea? Bad idea?

I think you might be thinking about the RX10 IV. At the moment the V is simply rumor, and VI and VII are fiction! Or maybe you've got the RX10 and RX100 confused with each other?

But to the question. Two totally different cameras. I'd keep them both!

I have the RX10 III & IV and an A7S and A7R II. Each has its pros and cons, and reasons for existing.

bwa

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Jul 16, 2019 15:19:43   #
KRP
 
Great captures Gene, very convincing, thanks for sharing

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Jul 16, 2019 16:54:47   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
Comparing a bridge camera to a mirrorless is tricky, but no matter how you look at it, you have to go with more pixels, bigger sensor, faster shooting.

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Jul 16, 2019 17:01:52   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Ched49 wrote:
Comparing a bridge camera to a mirrorless is tricky, but no matter how you look at it, you have to go with more pixels, bigger sensor, faster shooting.


Totally agree, I have an A6000 with 10-18 f/4, 18-105 f/4, 18-55 f/var, and 55-210 f/var. I'm tempted all the time to make the leap to the RX10 iv for convenience sake.

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Jul 16, 2019 18:32:00   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
KRP wrote:
Great captures Gene, very convincing, thanks for sharing


Thanks! It's a great camera.

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Jul 16, 2019 18:38:08   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Ched49 wrote:
Comparing a bridge camera to a mirrorless is tricky, but no matter how you look at it, you have to go with more pixels, bigger sensor, faster shooting.


Faster shooting - the RX10M4 does up to 24fps and acquires focus in a few milliseconds. I am not sure what tech they use in their sensor, but if you look at the sample images I posted, there is no issue with image quality from that tiny sensor. The RX IS a mirrorless camera, only one where you can't change the lens. Oh, yes, that lens is impressive. So you have to go with image quality, utility, handling, weight, lens quality, etc. in addition to pixel count and sensor size. I think you'd have a really hard time coming up with a comparable focal length (equivalent field of view, of course) solution with any interchangeable lens camera that compares with the Sony RX10M4 - and still have it fit in a small gaget bag and weigh only 2.5 lbs. There is clearly more than pixels, sensor size and shooting speed to consider.

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Jul 16, 2019 18:41:12   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
superdadplano wrote:
Awesome pix Gene. Your pictures speak volume! I have the RX10 II and loved it.


Thanks!

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Jul 16, 2019 20:01:20   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
markngolf wrote:
I'm sure (as others have pointed out) you meant RX10 IV. I have one since July 2018. I have not used either of my two Canon DSLR's since then. It is an amazing camera. The menu system take time to learn, but it is so convenient and produces high quality images. Gene51 encouraged me to make the purchase. I've not regretted that decision.

I've attached a couple of images.
Mark


Mark, the singer looks great for ISO 2000.

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Jul 16, 2019 20:37:21   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Thanks, Gene.
Mark

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Jul 16, 2019 23:02:59   #
cucharared Loc: Texas, Colorado
 
I have both the a6000 and the RX10m4, as well as an A77ii. Since getting the rx10m4, I’ve not used the A77ii. And the a6000 doesn’t get used much, but I still get better shots with it when the Sigma 1.4 30mm is mounted. But, that’s the only lens I have for it that I think exceeds the RX10m4. And, it is naturally limited to 30mm. Otherwise. I always grab the super capable, one-lens-does-it-all RX10m4.
However, my shots with anything don’t come up to the quality and sharpness of Gene’s examples. Those are fantastic!

ron

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