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Jul 15, 2019 12:56:49   #
Xanadu Loc: Clay County FL
 
I am entertaining a Sony RX10vii and eliminating my Sony A6000 w/18-55, 55-210 lenses. We can all read the specs. However, I am interested in your opinions. Good idea? Bad idea?

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Jul 15, 2019 13:02:45   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
If all my gear was lost or stolen, I think I would replace it with an RX10. But since I already have good gear I can't rationalize spending the money.

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Jul 15, 2019 13:10:15   #
le boecere
 
I don't believe the RX10VII is on the market yet, but I would think that the lens on the RX10IV is a very "good idea" in comparison to Sony's mediocre APS-C kit lenses. They're probably not even comparable. Then there's the huge difference in cameras (sensor, processor, etc.).

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Jul 15, 2019 13:25:28   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
My choice would be another A series Sony with an APS sensor as opposed to the 1" sensor in the RX model. The price difference is minimal.

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Jul 15, 2019 13:28:34   #
bnsf
 
The only cameras that Sony has made has been the Sony DSC series RX10M1, RX10Mll, RX10Mlll, RX10MlV. They have not made a RX10V or a RX10Vll. The current most popular camera is the DSC RX10MlV.

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Jul 15, 2019 13:45:52   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Xanadu wrote:
I am entertaining a Sony RX10vii and eliminating my Sony A6000 w/18-55, 55-210 lenses. We can all read the specs. However, I am interested in your opinions. Good idea? Bad idea?


I don't have an A6000, or an RX10M7, but I do have an RX10M4.

I am not going to persuade you one way or the other. But I will attach a few images to help you make an informed decision. For me, it's the most versatile camera I have ever owned. I currently shoot with a D800 and a D810, with lenses that range from 14mm to 600mm. I don't miss the larger sensor that much. I think I'd miss a cropped sensor even less.But that's me.

_DSC0275-DSC-RX10M4--(10-12-17) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0061-DSC-RX10M3--(28-11-17) high res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3278-DSC-RX10M4--(22-11-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2863-DSC-RX10M4--(19-08-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2793-DSC-RX10M4--(23-05-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2771-DSC-RX10M4--(23-05-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2145-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2153-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2145-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3622-DSC-RX10M4--(17-12-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3649-DSC-RX10M4--(17-12-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0740 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0571 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

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Jul 15, 2019 13:56:47   #
Xanadu Loc: Clay County FL
 
Typo on the vii

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Jul 15, 2019 14:54:05   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
The a6000's kit lenses are not very good. The 16-50 is good at the center. The 55-210 sucks. Replace it.

The RX10 IV match between sensor and lens is excellent. It's not a fair fight. OTOH, the sensor on a6xxx series is much better. I had the a6000 and those kit lenses. I now have the a6500. I also have the RX10 IV. I use them both.

The ultimate potential for IQ goes with the a6000/a6500. But the percentage of keepers is vastly greater with the RX10 IV. I rented it and was so surprised with its virtues that I bought one. If I could only have one it would have to be the RX10 but I am happy that I have both. I like that the a6500 can take a huge variety of specialty lenses including legacy lenses. It has in-body image stabilization. With Sony adapters, many of the excellent Minolta lens can be used with AF. Ditto for Metabones and Canon lenses.

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Jul 15, 2019 15:03:15   #
le boecere
 
a6k wrote:
The a6000's kit lenses are not very good. The 16-50 is good at the center. The 55-210 sucks. Replace it.

The RX10 IV match between sensor and lens is excellent. It's not a fair fight. OTOH, the sensor on a6xxx series is much better. I had the a6000 and those kit lenses. I now have the a6500. I also have the RX10 IV. I use them both.

The ultimate potential for IQ goes with the a6000/a6500. But the percentage of keepers is vastly greater with the RX10 IV. I rented it and was so surprised with its virtues that I bought one. If I could only have one it would have to be the RX10 but I am happy that I have both. I like that the a6500 can take a huge variety of specialty lenses including legacy lenses. It has in-body image stabilization. With Sony adapters, many of the excellent Minolta lens can be used with AF. Ditto for Metabones and Canon lenses.
The a6000's kit lenses are not very good. The 16-5... (show quote)


I really like this mini-comparison review. But, I've found the 55-210 to actually be more satisfactory on my a6000, than the 16-50. I now just carry that kit zoom with several primes, and that's it (but, I'm on a fixed income that's still waiting to be "fixed").

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Jul 16, 2019 06:30:51   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bsprague wrote:
... I can't rationalize spending the money.


You'll have to work on that. I'm an expert at spending money, unfortunately.

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Jul 16, 2019 06:32:02   #
MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay
 
Xanadu wrote:
I am entertaining a Sony RX10vii and eliminating my Sony A6000 w/18-55, 55-210 lenses. We can all read the specs. However, I am interested in your opinions. Good idea? Bad idea?


I sold all my Canon gear (2 cameras, many lenses) in order to get an RX10 MIV. I never regretted it.

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Jul 16, 2019 08:14:15   #
Low Budget Dave
 
With the lenses that you have, the RX10 will be better. Those lenses really limit the camera, and do not take advantage of the bigger sensor at all.

I own the A6000, and have used it for many years. There are only a few advantages over the RX10.

1. Size and flexibility. There are times that you really just want a slightly smaller camera, and the cell phone just won't do. Or you need something that takes sharp pictures at F1.8. For those times you need an a6000 with a small prime, or maybe the 16-50 for hiking. The lenses that you have are not particularly small or fast. So instead of doing one thing well, they do two things average.

2. Low light. When you are pushing each camera up past ISO3200, the a6000 is slightly better. The RX10iv, for example, has a huge telephoto range, but the brightest stop is F2.8. The newer sensor in the RX10iv helps, but does not completely make up for the bigger sensor in the a6000.

3. Depth of field. The RX10iv (the only one of the series I have used) at 75mm is fairly deep. If deep is what you want, it is fine. If you slap the 50mm F1.8 on the Sony A6000, though, it will give you a fairly good impression of a portrait camera. It is not razor thin like a full frame, (and you have to back off to F2.2 to get the sharpness you want), but the background will have a moderate blur with a high quality of smoothness.

In general, I would say if you want to get more use out of your a6000, the better choice would be to buy a couple of inexpensive prime lenses, and see if they give you what you want. I would recommend the Sigma 30mm 1.4 for starters. It can do things that you just can't do with the Rx10 series.

If you need the zoom range more than you need the flexibility, background blur, and low-light, then the RX10 is the way to go.

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Jul 16, 2019 08:18:16   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
I don't have an A6000, or an RX10M7, but I do have an RX10M4.

I am not going to persuade you one way or the other. But I will attach a few images to help you make an informed decision. For me, it's the most versatile camera I have ever owned. I currently shoot with a D800 and a D810, with lenses that range from 14mm to 600mm. I don't miss the larger sensor that much. I think I'd miss a cropped sensor even less.But that's me.

I agree. If I had it to do all over again , I'd own that Sony RX10IV......it is a remarkable piece of engineering one of best performers I've ever seen on so many levels. I may still get one yet or possibly it's next edition??????

Thanks Gene!



_DSC0275-DSC-RX10M4--(10-12-17) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0061-DSC-RX10M3--(28-11-17) high res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3278-DSC-RX10M4--(22-11-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2863-DSC-RX10M4--(19-08-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2793-DSC-RX10M4--(23-05-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2771-DSC-RX10M4--(23-05-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2145-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2153-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC2145-DSC-RX10M4--(19-02-18) hi res by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3622-DSC-RX10M4--(17-12-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC3649-DSC-RX10M4--(17-12-18) by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0740 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr

_DSC0571 by Gene Lugo, on Flickr
I don't have an A6000, or an RX10M7, but I do have... (show quote)

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Jul 16, 2019 08:21:49   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Xanadu wrote:
I am entertaining a Sony RX10vii and eliminating my Sony A6000 w/18-55, 55-210 lenses. We can all read the specs. However, I am interested in your opinions. Good idea? Bad idea?


I'm sure (as others have pointed out) you meant RX10 IV. I have one since July 2018. I have not used either of my two Canon DSLR's since then. It is an amazing camera. The menu system take time to learn, but it is so convenient and produces high quality images. Gene51 encouraged me to make the purchase. I've not regretted that decision.

I've attached a couple of images.
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Jul 16, 2019 08:22:35   #
Xanadu Loc: Clay County FL
 
Thanks for all the contributions.

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